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        Another nuke exercise -- your next 9/11?


      By Jerry Mazza
       Online Journal Contributing Writer


          Jan 23, 2006, 22:05

 

 

Catch this! Some fresh-brewed Homeland Insecurity published today on WorldNetDaily. The Department of Defense (DOD) has scheduled its second major, three-day exercise to combat nuclear terrorism, this time in the Charleston, South Caroline area. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t know Charleston had a nuclear terror problem, shades of Sept. 11, 2001, the day on which some six drills were going, enough to distract anybody from doing anything when the drills went real.

But Charlestown is not a strategic town. It’s a vacation spot, nice beaches, good fishing, boat rides, excellent restaurants, southern cooking, and nice people, you say. So, kick back your heels and watch the thermal bomb go off like a Charleston sunset. No, no, no! But then why is the DOD goal coping with the catastrophic results of a terrorist nuclear attack here? Ah, you say, Charleston is a major US port city. And therefore the roast pig, bad term, test sight for nuclear holocaust by the sea.

But the exercise and the military’s Joint Task Force-Civil Support will be hosted (excuse me again) . . . headquartered at Fort Monroe, Virginia. And the three-day drill (which could go real, n'est-ce pas?) is for commanders and representatives of other federal agencies that would be involved in (catch this) the consequences of a 10-megaton nuclear blast, enough to decimate an American city. Let me fill you in on some of the particulars of such a blast, and remind you that what imploded over and destroyed Hiroshima was a 15 kiloton "Little Boy" bomb. Three days later at 11:02 AM, the 22 kiloton "Fat Man" was dropped over Nagasaki, wiping it out as well.

A 10-megaton bomb will crisp wood frame houses, common in this area, for a distance of more than a mile from ground zero and produce medium rare damage for a mile and a half. The damage radius increases with the power of the bomb, about in proportion to its cube root. When imploded at the ideal height, a 10-megaton bomb, 1,000 times as powerful as a 10-kiloton weapon, increases the distanced by 10, that is, out 11 miles for severe damage and 15 miles for moderate damage of a frame house.

Are you grokking this, strangers in a strange land? We’ve passed the science fiction stage. And now, folks are playing reality games with the concept in a military fort near a major American seaport city. Let me also tell you, the fireball for a 10-megaton explosion will have a diameter of about 4.8 miles across. A flash of thermal radiation is given off from the fireballs and spreads out over a large area, and with steady intensity.

The amount of surging thermal energy, penetrating radiation, climactic effects, and clean H-bombs effects, well, just click here to download details. They ain’t pretty. But then, neither were 9/11’s, remaining ugly as hell nearly five years later.

In fact, the real danger here is that an administration in danger of extinction itself for its wars, its financial bungling, its corruption, its catastrophic Katrina, its trillions in tax cuts for the rich and subsequent debt, its utterly inhumane cuts to social services, in short, its horrible five years . . . the real threat is that this administration will use this go-real nuclear holocaust to blame on Al Qaeda, and get itself off the hook and hanging platform, and elevate national terror into a national state of emergency, eliminating all democracy, with a call for martial law, under Der Bush & Company.

Think I’m kidding. Officials from the Department of Homeland Security, including the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA, remember them from New Orleans?) and senior Coast Guard brass will be on hand. The WorldNetDaily article claims that no part of the exercise will take place there, though the target of attack is Charleston. Maj. Gen. Bruce Davis, the task force’s commander, will oversee the exercise from Fort Monroe. What a blast (I hope not).

The Joint Task Force-Civil Support -- part of US Northern Command, which oversees the Defense Department’s domestic military activity -- is a standing joint task force composed of active, reserve and National Guard members from the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard, as well as civilian personnel. Well, party on down. Just don’t you dare blow up Charleston.

Last summer, the article also tells us, a similar exercise, “Sudden Respond ‘05” was led by Virginia’s Fort Monroe-based Joint Task Force-Civil Support. It too, duh, was designed to simulate a nuclear terrorist attack that the highest US officials, including President Bush (one of the lowest), have said is the No. 1 threat facing the nation, and they if anyone, will make happen.

The drill, we’re told, is strikingly similar to a scenario detailed by Graham Allison, former Pentagon assistant secretary for plans and policy and current Harvard professor, in his book, “Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe.” It’s only preventable 'til it turns real, just like 9/11, bunky. And you don’t need to be a Harvard professor to know that, dumb ass idiot.

Nevertheless, Allison wrote, “A month after the Sept.11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Central Intelligence Agency presented Bush with a report that al-Qaida had smuggled a 10-kiloton nuclear bomb into New York City."

The president, according to the book, dispatched Nuclear Emergency Support Teams of scientists and engineers to New York to search for the weapon, which was never found. Never found, imagine that. And imagine that I live in New York and never heard a frigging word about that. And maybe some “terrorist” from al-Qaida, shorthand for CIA, took it and put it under the White House, because it has done an amazing job of decimating the agency, and laying blame for 9/11 at its feet.

Allison, sport that he is, described the devastation that a 10-kilaton nuclear bomb would bring to Manhattan if it were detonated in the middle of “historic Times Square.” Some 1 million people would die almost immediately. Is everybody staining their trousers? I hope so. But ho, there’s more from Allison. Catch these hot chestnuts.

“The resulting fireball and blast wave would destroy instantaneously the theater district (and all those homos in it), the New York Times building (and all those gray stories), Grand Central Terminal (and all those gray commuters), and every other structure within a third of a mile to the point of detonation.” And that’s not all he wrote. “The ensuing firestorm would engulf Rockefeller Center (melt the ice ring in a couple of seconds), Carnegie Hall, Empire State Building, and Madison Square Garden, leaving the Knicks and Rangers homeless (sorry), not to mention a landscape echoing the World Trade Center, the sons of bitches . . .

“From the United Nations headquarters on the East River and the Lincoln Tunnel under the Hudson River, to the Metropolitan Museum in the eighties and the Flatiron Building in the twenties, structures would remind one of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Office Building following the Oklahoma City Bombing,” another black ops by our government friends, with a bomb placed on the east, a bomb in the center (which went off and rocked the building down) and a bomb placed on the west side of the building -- the east/west bombs for early and second responders, which were taken away and decommissioned. You don’t think it was that dumb-ass ammonium nitrate and fuel oil bomb in the Ryder truck that did anything but break the glass windows, do you? A team of men were working in the garage the week before the explosion, rewiring things, men in uniforms that read Government Agency Operations.

The monsters would like to strike again, folks, so take this very, very seriously. And take this WND article and substitute George Bush for Osama bin Laden and CIA for al-Qaida, who have planned to use nuclear weapons in a terrorist attack on the US. The plan is dubbed “American Hiroshima.” In fact, as first reported in Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, captured al Qaeda (CIA) operatives and documents suggest the weapons have already been smuggled in the country.

For continuing and complete coverage of “American Hiroshima” plans, subscribe to Joseph Farah’s G2 Bullet, the premium, online, intelligence newsletter published (not) by the founder of WND.

Citizens of Charleston and America, get your butts out there from Jan. 31 to Feb. 3, to protest, intercept, act up, criticize, analyze, neutralize that Fort Monroe, Virginia, drill. Your lives and the lives of thousands, hundreds of thousands of others depend upon it. Do it now. And thank the tip slipped to me about this draconian drill. Wherever you are, you know who you are and I salute you.

Jerry Mazza is a freelance writer, resident of New York who does not ever want to see 911 or anything like it happen again. Reach him at gvmaz@verizon.net.

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Houston PD Running Nuclear Disaster Drills As Build-Up Of Numerous Law Enforcement Agencies Seen In Nearby Texas City Army Intel Capt. Eric May warns Bush cabal days away from a nuclear strike. Texas City resident "opens up a hornet's nest" as he warns local law enforcement about the possibility of nuclear strike. 26 Jan 2006

 

By Greg Szymanski

 

Sources inside the Houston Police Department (HPD) have confirmed officers in recent weeks have been taking part in nuclear disaster drills, adding more fuel to the fire that the city is being targeted by the "enemies within" the Bush administration for a nuclear attack.

"In the last week I have multi-checked with sources of mine in the Houston Police Department and confirmed that HPD has been running nuclear disaster drills," said former Army Intel Capt. Eric May, who is trying to alert Americans of a possible nuclear strike in the upcoming days, possibly to take place in the Texas City or Houston metro area.

"Accordingly, I've been calling my personal contacts, among them HPD CID Sergeant John Karshner and HPD Internal Affairs Lt. Felix Garcia, to let them know that the set-up is on."

Capt. May, who once backed the government's position while serving his country, became disillusioned after 911, saying facts surfaced making it "crystal clear" the enemy wasn't Al Qaeda but an "enemy within," or the Bush-New World Order Cabal.

Since realizing 911 was an inside government job, Capt. May has used every ounce of his military training, energy and intelligence to try and stop the Bush administration and what he calls its "phony war on terror." His info-war on terror can be better understood by a Google search of Ghost Troop Bibliography, taken from the name of his cyber-unit called Ghost Troop.

Capt. May said the Al Qaeda scare has been contrived and manufactured by the Bush Cabal in an effort to cover-up the real criminals and culprits in the White House. Saying every so-called terrorist attack escalates in size and body count, he is warning Americans that the next one will involve a nuclear blast on American soil.

"There is a very good chance the next attack could occur within the next 9 days and the target being the British Petroleum plant at Texas City, Texas," said Capt. May, adding that he believes he has broken the Bush Cabal-Illuminati "embedded code, " a secret code using numbers and symbols.

Capt. May also feels the "breaking of the Illuminist number code, using variations 1, 3 and 9 to name a few, may have halted a previously planned nuclear attack bacon on July 28 at a petroleum plant in Texas City.

"They like to communicate with this Illuminist number code and the media is actually passing the information on to the many levels of members, alerting them of the potential dates and times of planned acts of terror," said Capt. May. "They are also using the repetitive name game, another way of feeling superior. Just think about it: Oklahoma City, Okla., New York, N.Y. and now maybe Texas City, Texas."

And Capt. May's dire prediction raised some eye-brows in Texas City as resident Jon Watkins recently alerted law Texas City law enforcement officials about May's inside information.

"I think I have stirred up a hornet's nest here in town after going to the police department with the information," said Watkins today from his Texas City home, as other reports have come in from local citizens that there are ongoing "SWAT" exercises going on in the area, involving numerous police and government agencies, including the HPD, the Pasadena Police Department and Homeland Security.

"After Leaving the Texas City police station, I noticed one thing really strange, as I counted at least 11 different type of official police and government vehicles parked in the police lot. I have never seen this before and it has me a little worried. What are they planning?"

Watkins said he is passing the information about the possible nuclear threat to hundreds of locals, saying it is "better to be safe then sorry." He added that some people have listened, including several police officers, but others have brushed him off as nothing more than a "conspiracy nut."

"I have taken the taped interview of Capt. May's warnings broadcast on Greg Szymanski's Investigative Journal and have passed it on to the proper authorities," added Watkins.

When Capt. May was told of Watkins actions in Texas City, he added:

"Pray for Mr. Watkins to preserver, and for Sergeant John Karshner and Lt. Felix Garcia (of the HPD) to do the right thing and challenge the official co-conspirators of this pending mass murder."

Besides the suspicious mounting of police activity in the Houston metro-Texas City areas, credible reports have surfaced from Bank of America branch managers in Houston and the Los Angeles area that Homeland Security agents have been holding instructional meetings in the last two weeks, advising employees how to deal with customers in the case of a "pending national disaster."

Employees have been instructed to remain silent about the orders coming down from Homeland Security, saying it is for national security reasons. Employees in both the LA and Houston areas have come forward saying they have been instructed to remain silent and not to distribute valuables from safety deposit boxes, including gold, silver and firearms in the case of a national emergency.

For more informative articles, go to www.arcticbeacon.com 

Greg Szymanski

Listen to my Radio Broadcast live Monday night at 8pm Pacific time on LewisNews, returning Jan. 1 2006 Radio http://webs.lewisnews.com/radio/index.htm . Greg is also regular on Rense.com the first Thursday of every month at 9pm pacific time.

Greg also has his own daily show on the Republic Broadcast Network. Go to www.rbnlive.com  and will be starting a daily program on the Genesis Communications Network soon at www.gcnlive.com  Greg Szymanski is an independent investigative journalist and his articles can been seen at www.LewisNews.com . He also writes for American Free Press and has his own site www.arcticbeacon.com

 

 

 


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Martial Law - Drills, Drills, & More Drills

By Nancy Levant January 23, 2006

 

In spite of the fact that monkeys continue to cover their eyes, ears, and mouths, they are still glued to their TV sets, and you can bet these Darwinian primates are getting nervous along with the rest of us. Martial law is being heavily practiced in the United States.

It has now been decided that being forced to show your bags, purses, and ID's upon command is not unconstitutional. You can be arrested, as an American citizen, for failure to do so. The line between police, military, FEMA, eco-dictators, and Homeland Security personnel has blurred, and we are vulnerable to the powers of them all. But why?

If we listen to the media, which is, of course, the orchestrated and desired state of affairs, we are told of impending economic disaster, impending terrorist threats to the homeland, impending pandemics, impending eco-weather super storms, and impending mass power grid failures. Hmmm…and all in step with the Martial Law system that has been fully set into place and stone via many, many Executive Orders. Hmmm… Looks like all that's needed to release that beast is another good catastrophe and, according to our media, a good many are in the wings.

The other angle of this story, however, is not mentioned on corporate TV – that being the one-world governance slant. They don't talk about one-world government on television. They don't talk about Agenda 21 or its partnering/stakeholding bureaucracies or the Biosphere Reserves and their direct-connect to the United Nations, World Bank, and World Trade Organization. They don't talk about the taking down of the Christian religion and the dumbing down of American children. They don't talk about the Socialist take-over of the American public school system. They don't talk about manufactured super viruses, the intent to draft female children, or mandatory military service into global armies.

Corporate media does not report on the nearly complete judicial/political movement to disassemble the United States Constitution. Nor do they report on George Washington University's intent to replace our Constitution with a Communitarian-based constitution – a hybrid Communist-Socialist government and its mandatory compliance. Corporate media does not report the facts and specific details of the Patriot Act II.

No, corporate media does not report on one-world governance because, if they did, they would have to tell the American populace that the American government is no longer in the hands of the American people. They would have to tell them, that for decades and decades, their votes were manipulated and that all candidates in the last 50 years (or many more) were well paid and connected globalist planners and/or prostitutes.

Equally, media would have to tell the American people that they were to be forced into Socialist governance using military-style force. They would have to tell the people to turn over their private property, their guns, their gods, their children, their sick and infirmed, their rights to mobility, and their rights to all dissension. They would have to tell the people that their Constitution was trumped and buried by the very people they elected with waving flag in hand.

The corporate media would have to report on the North American Sector and the Organization of American States (www.oas.org)- the new collective global/political region of Canada-America-Mexico-Central America-South America – all of which mandated by the United Nations. And they would also have to tell the American people about the stakeholding/regionalization connection – the replacement governing system for counties and local jurisdictions, which specifically replaces local governance and voting with appointed bureaucrats. And they would have to tell the people about the herding of the masses into eco-villages, communitarian housing, corporate live-work units, or collectives, so to speak. You know, the ones with the built-in policing services (C.O.P.S. = Community Oriented Policing Services – look it up).

They would have to report on the cross-training of national militaries, in preparation for one-law-fits-all governance (Cross- training is interesting as one might assume that American boys and girls might be hesitant to fire upon their friends, families, and fellow citizens. However, soldiers from other countries – especially American-despising nations – would, no doubt, easily solve that potential problem).

Corporate media doesn't like to report on the patenting of genetically modified food or animals, either – almost as much as they dislike reporting on mandatory and tainted vaccines – as in be vaccinated or be arrested or vaccinate your children or lose your children. And speaking of children, media skips the part about the complete elimination of American history and Constitution studies, because they would have to explain to the people that American history and Constitution are eliminated, and that the new global citizens, your children, are now being trained for his and her work detail.

Corporate media does not mention "humane" global population reduction – the scientific mastering of euthanasia and super viruses manufactured by scientists who, globally, wind up mysteriously dying or disappearing. And media has never touched the subject of Agenda 21 and its ties to the largest "environmental" non-profits and agencies in the world, who own more global land than entire governments, and who have all called for massive global population reduction.

So, here's my point – why, you ask, are Martial Law drills being practiced in all states? Why does America, the land of the free, have staffed and readied detention camps in most, if not all, states? And why does the media not report on the most historic and compelling news in American history? I'll tell you why. Because we are being conquered by corporate/financial manipulation – clearly – and planned catastrophes are the mode and means to the end.

"Catastrophe," and perhaps "global catastrophe," will continue to switch on a complete Martial Law take-over and control of the American masses. "Catastrophe," we will be told, necessitates military take-over for our own good. I suggest to you that Martial Law will ensue for several years to several decades until Americans get used to the fact that they are under the jurisdiction and control of a one-world governing body, which is absolutely an oligarchy. And I'm equally sure that as we degrade in life style, education, and our individual liberties are completely eliminated, our children will be raised in a world none the wiser of past freedoms. The beacon of freedom and freedom for the masses are to be forgotten and eliminated from the history books – much akin to the elite canon-pickers of days gone by.

The Baby Boomers are a large part of the current American population, and we are rapidly aging. The timing of the global governance take- over and the Martial Law system, in my opinion, is impeccable. The globalists have done their homework and their system is masterful. Too bad that we've been kickin' back, drinkin' beer, getting' high, watchin' the tube, loadin' up our credit cards, and buyin' $200,000 cracker boxes while the big boys were laughing all the way to their banking positions, political positions, and million dollar overseas homes and mansions inside of conservation corridors – the lands where the masses dare not tread.

Kissinger once referred to the bulk of humanity as "useless eaters." Perhaps he was being generous. Just don't be surprised when units of men and women, with new generation weapons, are walking down Maple Street in Americana, USA, and demanding your papers, cash, food stores, and houses. Just keep watching TV. It will tell you what to do when the catastrophe(s) strikes. See you in camp.

Websites for Wisdom:

www.amerikanexpose.com 

www.newswithviews.com 

www.federalobserver.com 

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Freedom - The Cold, Hard Facts

By Nancy Levant January 24, 2006

 

There are a thousand critically important issues to deal with in today's world, but American citizens need to be very careful. The creation of social chaos is the fundamental tool used by Constitutional destroyers to divide and conquer the ability to focus on the big prize, which is freedom. Our focus should not be upon partisan details, but upon Constitutional dismantling. Our political opinions and leanings will be non-issues if there is no Constitutional Republic.

As each day passes, and we continue to see our "representatives" refusing to represent American freedom, and as we continue to see our voting powers eliminated by the non-elected partnership-stakeholding system of global leadership, one wonders if there will ever be another election. Specifically, one wonders if Martial Law will be implemented before another election date rolls around. Due to the fact that our nation has been totally and very skillfully bankrupted by highly educated economic experts, one wonders if we have been set up to purposefully crash, whereby giving Martial Law its jurisdiction.

It should be very clear to every American citizen that 1) something is terribly wrong with our "representative government," and 2) our representatives and their corporate partners are recreating public law. Our rights as American citizens are being systematically, purposefully eliminated. Therefore, our opinions about this social condition and that cultural trend are pointless. In the very near future, changes could occur in America that will make all partisanship null and void. Martial Law knows no partisanship and cares not for opinion. It knows only military-style dictatorship.

At this point in time, I strongly suggest that American people prepare for the worst. All indicators lead to renegade politicians who are overthrowing the American government and its Constitution. No one can deny this fact. Equally, a Martial Law system is totally, completely in place thanks to three or more decades of powers amassed through presidential Executive Orders and many, many Acts.

Consider the following:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders in to effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen-year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the President declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

Add to these Executive Orders the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, which would give state governors and public health officials the power to:

· Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.

· Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.

· Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.

· Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)

· Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.

· Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and--this is key-- property rights.

· Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.

· Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders."

· Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.

· Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.

Then, consider the following:

· Super viruses are manufactured.

· Borders are open to illegals of all shapes and kinds.

· NAFTA-CAFTA-FTAA enforces internationalized economics.

· Imported nuclear devices are known to be in the United States.

· Our nation was bureaucratically bankrupted by the Federal Reserve Corporation.

· The Partnership-stakeholding bureaucracy eliminates voting.

· The elected representatives of the American people are rapidly eliminating constitutional rights.

· The American military is completely dedicated to foreign theaters, while a secondary military system has been established on the homeland with new and unimaginable powers over the citizenry.

Let us consider the powers of the Patriot Act II:

SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the definition of "enemy combatant" to all American citizens who "may" have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is "any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.") Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn't broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.

Under Section 501 a US citizen engaging in lawful activities can be grabbed off the street and thrown into a van never to be seen again. The Justice Department states that they can do this because the person "had inferred from conduct" that they were not US citizens. Remember Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act states that any violation of Federal or State law can result in the "enemy combatant" terrorist designation.

SECTION 201 of the second Patriot Act makes it a criminal act for any member of the government or any citizen to release any information concerning the incarceration or whereabouts of detainees. It also states that law enforcement does not have to tell the press who they have arrested, and they never have to release the names.

SECTION 301 and 306 (Terrorist Identification Database) set up a national database of "suspected terrorists" and radically expand the database to include anyone associated with suspected terrorist groups and anyone involved in crimes or having supported any group designated as "terrorist." These sections also set up a national DNA database for anyone on probation or who has been on probation for any crime, and orders State governments to collect the DNA for the Federal government.

SECTION 312 gives immunity to law enforcement engaging in spying operations against the American people and would place substantial restrictions on court injunctions against Federal violations of civil rights across the board.

SECTION 101 will designate individual terrorists as foreign powers and again strip them of all rights under the "enemy combatant" designation.

SECTION 102 states clearly that any information gathering, regardless of whether or not those activities are illegal, can be considered to be clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign power. This makes newsgathering illegal.

SECTION 103 allows the Federal government to use wartime martial law powers domestically and internationally without Congress declaring that a state of war exists.

SECTION 106 is bone chilling in its straightforwardness. It states that broad general warrants by the secret FSIA court (a panel of secret judges set up in a star chamber system that convenes in an undisclosed location) granted under the first Patriot Act are not good enough. It states that government agents must be given immunity for carrying out searches with no prior court approval. This section throws out the entire Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures.

SECTION 109 allows secret star-chamber courts to issue contempt charges against any individual or corporation who refuses to incriminate themselves or others. This section annihilates the last vestiges of the Fifth Amendment.

SECTION 110 restates that key police state clauses in the first Patriot Act were not sunsetted and removes the five-year sunset clause from other subsections of the first Patriot Act. After all, the media has told us: "This is the New America. Get used to it. This is forever."

SECTION 111 expands the definition of the "enemy combatant" designation.

SECTION 122 restates the government's newly announced power of "surveillance without a court order."

SECTION 123 restates that the government no longer needs warrants and that the investigations can be a giant dragnet-style sweep described in press reports about the Total Information Awareness Network. One passage reads, "thus the focus of domestic surveillance may be less precise than that directed against more conventional types of crime."

*Note: Over and over again, in subsection after subsection, the second Patriot Act states that its new Soviet-type powers will be used to fight international terrorism, domestic terrorism and other types of crimes. Of course the government has already announced in Section 802 of the first USA Patriot act that any crime is considered domestic terrorism.

SECTION 126 grants the government the right to mine the entire spectrum of public and private sector information from bank records to educational and medical records. This is the enacting law to allow ECHELON and the Total Information Awareness Network to break down any and all walls of privacy. The government states that they must look at everything to "determine" if individuals or groups might have a connection to terrorist groups. As you can now see, you are guilty until proven innocent.

SECTION 127 allows the government to takeover coroners' and medical examiners' operations whenever they see fit.

SECTION 128 allows the Federal government to place gag orders on Federal and State Grand Juries and to take over the proceedings. It also disallows individuals or organizations to even try to quash a Federal subpoena. So now defending yourself will be a terrorist action.

SECTION 129 destroys any remaining whistle blower protection for Federal agents.

SECTION 202 allows corporations to keep secret their activities with toxic biological, chemical or radiological materials.

SECTION 205 allows top Federal officials to keep all financial dealings secret, and anyone investigating them can be considered a terrorist.

SECTION 303 sets up national DNA database of suspected terrorists. The database will also be used to "stop other unlawful activities." It will share the information with state, local and foreign agencies for the same purposes.

SECTION 311 federalizes your local police department in the area of information sharing.

SECTION 313 provides liability protection for businesses, especially big businesses, that spy on their customers for Homeland Security, violating their privacy agreements. It goes on to say that these are all preventative measures - has anyone seen Minority Report? This is the access hub for the Total Information Awareness Network.

SECTION 321 authorizes foreign governments to spy on the American people and to share information with foreign governments.

SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.

SECTION 402 is titled "Providing Material Support to Terrorism." The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.

SECTION 403 expands the definition of weapons of mass destruction to include any activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce.

SECTION 404 makes it a crime for a terrorist or "other criminals" to use encryption in the commission of a crime.

SECTION 408 creates "lifetime parole" (basically, slavery) for a whole host of crimes.

SECTION 410 creates no statute of limitations for anyone that engages in terrorist actions or supports terrorists. Remember: any crime is now considered terrorism under the first Patriot Act.

SECTION 411 expands crimes that are punishable by death. Again, they point to Section 802 of the first Patriot Act and state that any terrorist act or support of terrorist act can result in the death penalty.

SECTION 421 increases penalties for terrorist financing. This section states that any type of financial activity connected to terrorism will result to time in prison and $10-50,000 fines per violation.

SECTIONS 427 sets up asset forfeiture provisions for anyone engaging in terrorist activities. There are many other sections that I did not cover in the interest of time. The American people were shocked by the despotic nature of the first Patriot Act. The second Patriot Act dwarfs all police state legislation in modern world history. (Many thanks to Alex Jones for this important list and research).

The only remaining question for American people is whether Executive Orders, and acts such as the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act and the Patriot Act II are imposed "in case of crisis," or whether they are created as part of a pre-determined decision to dismantle Constitutional America. And either way, is this how we want to live?

Carefully consider all the above. Carefully consider the fact that the American military has been out of the country for nearly 100 years, fighting foreign battles. And carefully consider that most of the Executive Orders were written prior to 9-11, and that the first Patriot Act was immediately passed following 9-11 without Congress having access to the contents of the Act. Something is terribly wrong, and my greatest fear is that American people will never have another opportunity for a national vote. It would appear that other plans are in the making.

Websites for Wisdoms:

www.infowars.com 

www.amerikanexpose.com 

www.eco.freedom.com 

www.newswithviews.com 

www.klamathbucketbrigade.org 

http://www.acl.us.tt 

www.sierratimes.com 

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Are We, the People, the Enemy?

By Nancy Levant January 23, 2006

 

 Well, our "elected" are certainly not listening to us, and that is quite a dilemma. For the last several years, every time I wrote to Congress and expressed my concerns for things like the Patriot Act, CAFTA, the Endangered Species Act, etc., I get responses that 1) don't address any of the points I made in my letters, and 2) I am told in no uncertain terms why the Patriot Act, CAFTA, and other legislation will be (and was) supported. One of my reps actually had the nerve to say that CAFTA was needed to be fair to the Third World. What about the world of the American family and the world that you are paid to represent?

I've seen at least 100 letters from reps, which circulate on the Internet, also proving that we are not being listened to and our opinions not taken into account. I think it is clear to say that government by the people has become a cliché, for it is certainly not a point of fact or law anymore. Our elected are demonstrating a regime change mentality in action and deed. Let's look at some facts:

Anti-American and anti-Constitution legislation is regularly hidden/buried.

Mis-named legislation further hides anti-American, anti-liberty agendas (New Freedom Initiative, for example).

Most new federal laws and Executive Orders are now a direct result of U.N. Agenda 21.

Most new federal laws and Executive Orders are now a direct result of centralizing power around the mandates of the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, environmental "non-profits," and the United Nations.

Most legislation now attempts to eliminate Constitutional rights.

Many bills are now written in preparation of what is clearly a coming Police State, which speaks volumes to the notion of pre-planned catastrophe and crisis.

Decades of presidential Executive Orders have defined the rules, regulations, and hierarchy of a highly defined Police State and Martial Law system, which again speaks to pre-conceived knowledge of impending catastrophe or crisis – most written prior to 2001.

30+ years of meetings held in foreign countries to lay out the game plan for global corporate governance.

Think tanks and global elites planning the future of the United States without the knowledge, consent, or vote of the American people.

Pharmaceutical companies given legislated invasion powers over the future of American children and over the authority of parenthood.

The U.N. Agenda 21, environmental "non-profits," and international corporations dictating all American public school curriculum.

The U.N. Agenda 21, environmental organizations, and international think tanks redefining and writing a new and global AND enforced religion.

Global governmental collection of DNA samples and legislated DNA databases.

Governmentally enforced open borders and illegal immigration.

Governmentally enforced partnership-stakeholding bureaucracy, whereby eliminating voting power and elected representation.

Purposeful legislation and Executive Orders that criminalize the right to dissent.

The clear and present danger of representatives who are not listening to or representing the will of the American people.

The clear and present danger of the American military being forced into 50+ years of foreign service, whereby removing our military from the American homeland.

Legislated rights given to "corporation," while eliminating Constitutional rights of the people.

Dismantling the United States Constitution without the opinion, consent, knowledge, or vote of the American people.

And these are just a few of the facts – the ones that are obvious. God only knows what is hidden and on the burner. It would appear that we are living amidst a renegade and conquering system, and so my question is this – what happens when they (not us) pass the Patriot Act II? Will the millions who have spoken out against this renegade system be jailed? Will our computers be confiscated? Will our ability to drive a car and to have mobility rights be denied in 2008 when the Real ID system is enforced?

Will we be denied jobs, paychecks, food and water? What is in store for all those who stood up for the Constitution of the United States, for freedom, and for their rights? Who will live in America's detention camps?

What will happen to the people who refuse to allow the United States of America to be dismantled and globalized under a one world global government? What will happen to Quaker and Mennonite families who refuse to participate and serve in foreign armies? What will happen to conscientious objects that refuse to serve under the U.N.?

What will happen to American parents who refuse to allow the public- private partnerships of government, such as the public school system, and big pharma to force drugs into their children? Are American citizens to be jailed for fighting for the survival of their nation, or are we to sit quietly by while we are openly, brazenly, conquered from within? Will a largely senior citizen movement, who worked to expose insider devotion to a regime change, be arrested as traitors to a global government?

We have all wondered about these issues. We have all talked about these questions. Perhaps it is time to put these questions to our representatives and to our President. Does disagreeing with their legislation, which is not the will of the people, mean that we have become terrorists, as John Ashcroft once boldly stated? Are the people of the United States of America the enemy of our so-called representative government? And is there any elected official in the United States of America willing to answer these questions?

Sadly, the answer to that question is no, they will not. Do tell...

Websites for Wisdom:

www.newswithviews.com 

www.amerikanexpose.com 

www.infowars.com 

www.klamathbucketbrigade.org 

www.eco.freedom.org 

www.federalobserver.com 

http://www.acl.us.tt 

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Erecting a Police State in America - A Very Bad Plan

By Nancy Levant January 23, 2006

 

As a response to 911, our elected representatives have given to the American people, via many statutes, The Department of Homeland Security - a civilian agency. They have also broadened the national powers and militarized FEMA.

Equally, C.O.P.S. (Community Oriented Policing Services) has been massively and federally funded to set up private policing patrols in most, if not all, of the new deed-restricted and "planned" communities where many American citizens now live. These policed communities are being raised in every state in the nation – rapidly.

City and county law enforcement are now required to cross-train with military, and those lines have now blurred. All across our nation, para-military forces, including foreign troops at our Southern border, are performing practice drills – over and over and over again.

A full-blown Martial Law system, which includes the "suspension" of the Constitution of the United States, has been set into stone by presidential Executive Orders. Most of these orders were declared prior to 911, but for the sake of this article, we will overlook that fact for now.

Without question, our elected representatives have rapidly erected plans for a police state in our nation. Now, let's assume that their decisions to raise a paramilitary police state in the United States of America are merely a response to 911. For now, we will also overlook the thousands upon thousands of treaties, charters, compacts, and "partnership" bureaucracies that were signed and implemented behind our backs – the ones with direct links to the United Nations, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, and the Organization of American States, for example. However, we will put all of this aside for now.

But let's get to the issue of homeland security, as in securing our form of government and the freedoms guaranteed to the people of the 50 United States. Post 911, our elected representatives raised a new homeland security system, which includes full-blown and documented plans for 1) the suspension of our Constitution, 2) military rule of the nation, and 3) a national populace stripped of their civil rights – all of them.

With this in mind, I suggest to you the following:

Our elected have no authority whatsoever, explicit or implicit, to plan for the suspension of our Constitutional form of government, as they are sworn by oath, and by the income we pay them, to its upholding and defense.

Martial Law in the United States of America will result in unthinkable and unintended consequences.

That organizing a paramilitary system, with powers to suspend Constitutional authority and government is, at best, detrimental to the nation, its people, and a very shortsighted and dangerous plan.

Should a police state ensue, it will result in permanent and sweeping societal and governmental changes. All nations that lost their governmental structures, and citizens who lost all civil rights due to military take-over, never woke up one sunny, magical morning and found their governments and rights restored. If in doubt, I refer you to South and Central America for the results of paramilitary take- over.

No American citizen, including some in office, wants Martial Law, a police state, and military dictatorship EVEN IF there IS another 911, or worse. In fact, that would be the worst thing that could possibly happen. Stay with me and I will tell you why.

Our elected representatives have not exercised clear, Constitutional authority by planning for, much less erecting, a full-blown police state, and with the full intention of suspending our nation's government.

Is there a homeland security problem? Yes, indeed, there is. Have our representatives devised an emergency response system that has enormous potential for unthinkable consequences? Yes, they certainly have. On this point, I am in total agreement with the ACLU.

So, the question begs – why would our elected representatives make unconstitutional decisions to raise a new national security system that is fraught with danger BEFORE using their Constitutional authority, which not only permits them to LEGALLY defend against violations of law, insurrections, and/or invasions, but is clearly defined within the Constitution, as well? When our Constitution contains an amendment, as well as Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16, which were written SPECIFICALLY to address homeland security due to violations of law, insurrections, and/or invasions, and specific instructions on how to defend and protect all of the states in the nation, why did our representatives completely ignore this amendment and instead step wholly out of their legal authority to devise a police/military dictatorship? Excuse me, but planning to destroy our Constitution and our national independence is a criminal act. No one inside of government or otherwise has the legal authority to devise such a plan.

When our elected representatives are employing inappropriate and dangerous means, of any kind, that could result in a police state, which they devised, they are acting outside of any legal authority AND they are not following their LEGAL book of instructions for securing the homeland. Usurping the governmental structure of this nation by erecting a police state is not only fundamentally destructive; it is also a criminal act in this nation. Law is law.

So, to our representatives, I say this: Instead of illegally shredding the Constitution, how about using the document you swore to uphold to secure this nation – if that is, indeed, your intent. Planning and erecting a dictatorship in the United States, using synthetic and "what if" scenarios and hysteria to do so, is beyond stupid. Equally, you are affirmatively destroying the structure that employs you. Your shortsightedness is, frankly, astounding! Equally astounding is your refusal to look to the Constitution for answers, assuming you are looking for answers.

Now, to my readers, as WE are law-abiding people, we, too, must look to our Constitution for homeland security. But first, let's look at some historical parallels to our current condition, which serve to clarify our current and terribly vulnerable condition, thanks to our elected and their gun controlling means and methods.

Consider the French and Indian Wars. During those times, many "enemies" of the settlers were unknown entities and potentially anywhere and everywhere. Colonists had to deal with the international war between the French and English, which drew them into a rather irregular war, and they also had to deal with Tory and Indian bands, which were more akin to today's terrorism-style conflicts. Those wars were a mix of undeclared conflicts and a declared war, but more akin to "terrorism" threats. People had to be prepared for just about anything, at any time, and attack by multiple means and numbers. Then consider the Revolutionary War, which immediately followed, a declared and international war. The founding fathers of the United States were very familiar with both the French and Indian conflicts AND declared and international warfare. These men had experienced and seen it all. And this is specifically why they worded the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution as follows:

"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Now, the founding fathers of this nation, having had experience with undeclared and declared conflicts and wars, specifically placed homeland security powers and authority into the hands of the each of the states' militias, which were not only necessary to the security of each state, but were also MANDATORY. Via the Colonial and State Militia Acts of that time, every male between the ages of 16 and 60 were REQUIRED to be in service to the defense of their states and, if necessary, their nation.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms was absolutely understood by the founding fathers as necessary to the "security" of "free" states. Therefore, a "free state" is one in which the population of that state is always armed IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN that state's security. This is not rocket science. Reinstate the Constitutional definition of "militias," which were organizations specifically created to protect the homeland using a fully armed population, and you have homeland security. But how, you ask?

As with most historical perversions, the word "militia" now denotes something entirely different to the minds of American people. We now believe militias to be radical, fringe-type groups. However, from a Constitutional point of fact and law, the "Militia of several States" meant every male person, age 16 to 60, was required by law to 1) have adversary-worthy weapons in his home, maintained in proper working order and subject to inspection, and 2) a proper store of ammunition, and other accoutrements that were necessary to defend his city, state and/or nation.

Let me make this as plain as I can – The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America states that a well- regulated Militia is NECESSARY to the SECURITY of a free state, and therefore the defined Militia is to be 1) a fully armed population, 2) with arms and ammunitions in ALL homes, and 3) is NOT an option but a LEGAL DUTY of ALL male citizens. The right to keep and bear arms is, therefore, 1) an absolute, and 2) applies to all free male citizens, according to our 2nd Amendment (there are/were exceptions – most do not apply today being related to the legal ownership of slaves).

According to our purposefully ignored 2nd Amendment, which has also been politically perverted into a keep and bear-only mentality, the actual meaning of the 2nd Amendment IS homeland security. Consider the following: Imagine if America, today, had an entirely armed population, as did our Colonial ancestors in every state. Every man on every street is armed with standard, military issue weapons. Now, let us then consider how we would feel about our natural right of resistance and self-preservation to restrain the violence of ANY type of oppression, insurrection, or invasion.

The 2nd Amendment not only provides our elected representatives with a homeland security book of instructions, it also explains, explicitly, that in order to have freedom AND security simultaneously, a well-regulated Militia is "NECESSARY." For any insurrections, you call up the Militia, which is every man, in any state, or in any neighborhood, on-call, every day of every year, and armed.

And again I say to the careerists in office, the Constitution solves the problem of securing the homeland. Not one of you can question the fact that a Militia is necessary to the security of a free state. The need for the reinstatement of the Militia of the several states is not an obscure fantasy. It is a conclusion of fact and law that the Constitution has adopted, and therefore applies to every public official. No public official can deny this conclusion, because every public official has taken an "oath or affirmation to support this constitution."

In conclusion, I ask all gun-owning readers to please forward this article to your gun clubs and associations. I would like to see the NRA, the GOA, the NFA, the AFA, and all other gun associations take the lead and initiative to revisit what actually may have been the founding intent of their organizations. We need to lobby all state legislatures to introduce bills to reinstate the states' militias according to the 2nd Amendment and the current state of American affairs. We the People have the legal right to raise the Constitutional Militia in each and every one of our states, and the proper way to do so is legislatively. The language of the Constitution will not be undermined. Nor is it up for reinterpretation by anyone. Legality is on our side.

We also know that ANY gun control, whatsoever, goes directly contrary to our 2nd Amendment rights SPECIFICALLY due to the fact that homeland security IS a dire fact of today's world, and SPECIFICALLY due to the raising of a police state, which WILL disarm the public in order to succeed. You've heard the term "Gun-Free Zones?" How about Defense-Free Zones, or for that matter, how about a totally disarmed nation other than those in the police state? Have you ever heard the legal term "badge of slavery?" Disarmament is the first badge of slavery.

Also, what is the point of winning the battle against "terrorism" overseas if we lose the battle at home? Considering the absence of American troops from American soil for the last 100 years, what other option to homeland security is viable? Equally, and as history relays in one police state after another, usurpers and tyrants initiate criminal activities via secret-police-style apparatuses, spying, intelligence and investigatory agencies. Resistance networks tend to get "broken up" prior to armed force and public displays of the actual police state itself.

I would rather see America LEGALLY defended by her citizens than by a foreign/domestic-hybrid paramilitary force created by careerists and bureaucrats, who have unconstitutionally and illegally erected police state infrastructures all across the United States of America – and to what purpose and end only the globalists know, for now.

It's time to take back our government and our Constitutional right and DUTY to defend our Constitution and constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. We have every legal right to do so, and our 2nd Amendment mandates that Militias of the several States (meaning every one of our states) be raised to secure this nation. Assuming the boys on the Hill will not be so inclined, we must demand that all of our states comply with the mandates of the 2nd Amendment. They cannot legally refuse to do so as they are subordinate to the Constitution and its 2nd Amendment.

For help in reinstating the Constitutional Militia via your state legislatures, contact Dr. Edwin Vieira via NewsWithViews.com. The answer to our vulnerability and our security is very simple and very absolute. Tyrants, usurpers with armies, and foreign terrorists are no match for a nationally armed population. The answer is so simple and clear. America must remain free and sovereign America. Therefore, you arm the full citizenry to secure freedom, as instructed by the 2nd Amendment. This IS homeland security.

We live in an environment inundated by ignorance and disinformation. Therefore, it is understandable why we have lacked for so long any social solidarity or sense of mutual reliance upon each other as American people. We have been purposefully, covertly, divided into paranoid separatist groups via the liberal/conservative, young/old, religion and pigmentation divide mechanisms. I suggest that being a part of your state's militia will help you to remember that you are an American, with rights and freedom first and foremost, and that your neighbors – all of them – have and are the same.

We need to be united once more as a nationality that is based upon free people and THEIR government. We have to be united, because 1) a police state cannot possibly exist under the Constitution, but is being planned nonetheless, and 2) by defining "homeland security" as a centralized bureaucratic apparatus that interlinks intelligence agencies, police departments and programs, community special forces, FEMA, technological surveillance and databases, and the Armed Forces, Congress has evaded its DUTY "to call forth the Militia, as mandated by Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16 of the Constitution, to execute the LAWS of the Union, to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions." Instead they have invented and erected an anti- constitutional infrastructure for Martial Law, military take-over, and a police state. This was a remarkably stupid thing to do.

For all of you who have asked ten thousand times what you can do – this is it. I suggest you begin with your gun associations and Dr. Edwin Vieira via NewsWithViews.com. We have to get bills introduced into the state legislatures to reinstate the Militias of the several States.

In understanding your Constitutional rights and obligations, the true power (and duty) to understand the Constitutional Militia lies in Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16. The 2nd Amendment emphasizes the importance of these clauses because its statement that "a well regulated Militia [is] necessary to the security of a free State" ties down the interrelationship so well, and binds all public officials to accept, follow, and implement it – no questions asked. But, as a matter of law, the Militia do not depend on the 2nd Amendment. Even if there were no 2nd Amendment, the powers/duties of the Militia would be the same. We're getting smarter every day! Now let's get the job done! We need the help and power of our gun associations, and we need them now. Start emailing, calling, and forwarding. Also refer them to Dr. Edwin Vieira for guidance.

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HARRY BELAFONTE: ..."The new Gestapo"...

January 23, 2006

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/23/sitroom.03.html 

Mr. Belafonte, thanks very much. Welcome to THE SITUATION ROOM.

BELAFONTE: Thank you, Mr. Blitzer.

BLITZER: The new Gestapo. You know, those are powerful words, calling an agency of the U.S. government, the Department of Homeland Security with, what, about 300,000 federal employees, the new Gestapo. Do you want to take that back?

BELAFONTE: No, not really. I stand by my remarks. I am very much aware of what this has provoked in our national community. And I welcome the opportunity for us to begin to have a dialogue that goes other than where we've been having one up until now. People feel that I talk in extremes. But if you look at what's happening to American citizens, a lot is going on in the extreme.

We've taken citizens from this country without the right to be charged, without being told what they're taken for, we've spirited them out of this country, taken them to far away places and reports come back with some consistency that they are being tortured, that they're not being told what they've done. And even some who have been released have come back and testified to this fact.

BLITZER: But let me interrupt for a second. Are you familiar -- and I'm sure you are, because you're an intelligent man -- what the Gestapo did to the Jews in World War II?

BELAFONTE: Absolutely.

BLITZER: And you think that what the Department of Homeland Security is doing to, you know, some U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism is similar to what the Nazis did to the Jew?

BELAFONTE: Well, if you're taking people out of a country and spiriting them someplace else, and they're being tortured, and they're being charged without -- or not being charged, so they don't know what it is they've done.

It may not have been directly inside the Department of Homeland Security, but the pattern, the system, it's what the system does. It's what all these different divisions have begun to reveal in their collective.

My phones are tapped. OK? My mail can be opened. They don't even need a court warrant to come and do that as we once were required to do.

BLITZER: But no one has taken you or anyone else, as far as I can tell, to an extermination camp and by the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, even millions decided to kill them, which is what the Nazis did.

BELAFONTE: Well, Mr. Blitzer, let me say this to you, perhaps, just perhaps had the Jews of Germany and people spoken out much earlier and had resisted the tyranny that was on the horizon, perhaps we would never have had...

BLITZER: Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, are you blaming the Jews of Germany for what Hitler did to them?

BELAFONTE: No, no. What I'm saying is that if it an awakened citizenry, begins to oppose the first inkling of the subversion of government, of the subversion of our democracy, then perhaps an early warning would have saved the world a lot of what we all experienced. I'm not accusing the Jews at all.

BLITZER: Well, I just heard you say perhaps if the Jews of Germany had done something earlier then that might not have happened. That's what I thought you were getting at.

BELAFONTE: Well, what I was getting at really is that if all citizens, the Jewish community, the Christian community and all else had taken a very early aggressive stand rather than somehow suggesting or thinking or feeling that this would have gone away, we might have found that Germany would have been in a far different place than it wound up in.

BLITZER: Let me get through some of these other points, because we don't have a whole lot of time.

BELAFONTE: OK.

BLITZER: When you were in Venezuela with Hugo Chavez, you said that Bush is the greatest terrorist, the greatest tyrant. Are you saying that President Bush is worse than Osama bin Laden?

BELAFONTE: I'm saying that he's no better. You know, it's hard to make a hyperbole stick. I obviously haven't had a chance to meet all the terrorists in the world, so I have no reason to throw around the words like the greatest or make some qualitative statement. I do believe he is a terrorist.

I do believe that what our government does has terror in the center of its agenda. When you lie to the American people, when you've misled them and you've taken our sons and daughters to foreign lands to be destroyed, and you look at tens of thousands of Arab women and children and innocent people being destroyed each day, under the title of collateral damage, I think there's something very wrong with the leadership.

BLITZER: What you did say in Venezuela was that President Bush was, and I'm quoting now, the greatest tyrant in the world and the greatest terrorist in the world.

BELAFONTE: Yes, I did say that.

BLITZER: So you did use the word, the greatest.

Here's what you were quoted as saying in "The Raleigh News and Observer" on January 16th. And I'll let you amend or clarify your remarks.

"When you have a president that has led us into a dishonorable war, who has killed tens of thousands, many of them our own sons and daughters, what is the difference between those who would fly airplanes into buildings killing 3,000 innocent Americans? What is the difference between that terror and other terrors?"

Now that raises the issue of moral equivalency. Are you saying what the Bush administration, what the president is doing is the moral equivalent of what al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden ordered on 9/11? BELAFONTE: I think President George W. Bush, I think Cheney, I think Rumsfeld, I think all of these people have lost any moral integrity. I find what we are doing is hugely immoral to the American people and to others in the world.

BLITZER: And the same, or if not worse than al Qaeda? Is that what you're saying?

BELAFONTE: Well, I don't want to make those kind of comparisons. I'm not too sure all of what al Qaeda has done. Al Qaeda tortures. We torture. Al Qaeda's killed innocent people. We kill innocent people. Where do the lines get blurred here?

BLITZER: Well, I think the argument is, and correct me if I'm wrong, that al Qaeda deliberately wanted to kill as many people as possible in the World Trade Center and those two buildings. They didn't care if they were executives or janitors or crooks or anybody else. They just wanted to kill as many Americans as possible.

The U.S., when it goes after terrorists, there may be what's called collateral damage, but they're trying to kill enemies of the United States, those who have engaged in terror or similar actions. Do you understand the difference?

BELAFONTE: I understand the difference. What I don't want to get stuck with, or be guided by, is what you call collateral damage. That does not cleanse us morally. All of a sudden, it's beyond our capacity or our means to have made a difference in what we've done to thousands and thousands of Arabs.

I'm quite sure if you went through each and every body, you would find that somebody was a baker, somebody was a store keeper, somebody was a cab driver, somebody was a student. I don't know, you know, murder is murder. And just because you may do it under different guises does not remove the moral imperative.

We are in this war immorally and illegally. And we have no business doing what we do.

BLITZER: What about -- and these were very, very damning words that you said a few years ago, and I wonder if you still stick by them. When you call Colin Powell, the secretary of state at that time, or Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser now the secretary of state, plantation slaves.

It's one thing to disagree with them, but when you get involved in name calling with all the history of our country, plantation slaves, isn't that crossing the line?

BELAFONTE: Not at all. As a matter of fact, there are a lot of plantations in America where people are slaving away their lives. You know, one of the big problems that we have in this country is the inability to be honest and to be straightforward.

We've never had a dialogue in this country on the real issues of slavery. I don't even want to get stuck there. But what I said about Colin Powell is that he serves his master well. And in that context, I was asked to describe what that meant. And I used the metaphor of slavery and the plantation. And I stand by it.

So Colin Powell was viewed to be this rather moderate, honest human being. He stood before the United Nations and lied and knew he was lying. I mean, where do we draw these lines here?

BLITZER: How do you know Colin Powell knew he was lying? He says, and he's said as many times, he says he thought he was giving accurate information, although he subsequently learned that it was not accurate. But there's a difference between misspeaking and lying.

BELAFONTE: Mr. Blitzer, you have access to a lot of information. More than once we've discussed the fact that Colin Powell went before his president, went before others and said, "I can't say this. It is not correct. There are things about it that touch me deeply and disturb me."

And all of a sudden there he was in front of the U.N., despite this disclaimer, doing what he did. The world's at war. People are dying every day. These are human lives. Where do you draw this line of distinction?

Is it because they're over there and we're here? Is it because we sit on some righteous place saying that we're the finest nation in the world and that all else is less than we are? That's unacceptable in 21st century society.

BLITZER: Harry Belafonte, unfortunately we have to leave it there, we're out of time. But it was kind of you to spend a few moments with us here in THE SITUATION ROOM. I see you're not backing away from one word of what you said.

BELAFONTE: No, I can't. Dr. King is my mentor and I believe in truth, and that's what I'm doing.

BLITZER: Harry Belafonte, joining us in THE SITUATION ROOM, thank you very much.

BELAFONTE: Thank you, Mr. Blitzer.

 

 

 


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