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Chavez's
U.N. Speech
Bush Administration
Behind
Failed Military Coup in Venezuela
PRESIDENT CHAVEZ
DELIVERS REMARKS AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY
SEPTEMBER
20, 2006
"Representatives of the governments of
the world, good morning to all of you. First of all, I would like to invite you,
very respectfully, to those who have not read this book, to read it. Noam
Chomsky, one of the most prestigious American and world intellectuals, Noam
Chomsky, and this is one of his most recent books, 'Hegemony or Survival: The
Imperialist Strategy of the United States.'" [Holds up book, waves it in front
of General Assembly.]
"It's an excellent book to help us
understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century, and
what's happening now, and the greatest threat looming over our planet. The
hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very
survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about this danger and we
appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat,
which is like a sword hanging over our heads. I had considered reading from this
book, but, for the sake of time," [flips through the pages, which are numerous]
"I will just leave it as a recommendation.
It reads easily, it is a very good book,
I'm sure Madame [President] you are familiar with it. It appears in English, in
Russian, in Arabic, in German. I think that the first people who should read
this book are our brothers and sisters in the United States, because their
threat is right in their own house. The devil is right at home. The devil, the
devil himself, is right in the house.
"And the devil came here yesterday.
Yesterday the devil came here. Right here." [crosses himself]
"And it smells of sulfur still today."
Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from
this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer
as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner
of the world.
I think we could call a psychiatrist to
analyze yesterday's statement made by the president of the United States. As the
spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the
current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the
world.
An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it
as a scenario. I would even propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."
As Chomsky says here, clearly and in
depth, the American empire is doing all it can to consolidate its system of
domination. And we cannot allow them to do that. We cannot allow world
dictatorship to be consolidated.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The world
parent's statement -- cynical, hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy
from the need they have to control everything.
They say they want to impose a
democratic model. But that's their democratic model. It's the false democracy of
elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons
and bombs and firing weapons.
What a strange democracy. Aristotle
might not recognize it or others who are at the root of democracy.
What type of democracy do you impose
with marines and bombs?
The president of the United States,
yesterday, said to us, right here, in this room, and I'm quoting, "Anywhere you
look, you hear extremists telling you can escape from poverty and recover your
dignity through violence, terror and martyrdom."
Wherever he looks, he sees extremists.
And you, my brother -- he looks at your color, and he says, oh, there's an
extremist. Evo Morales, the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist
to him.
The imperialists see extremists
everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up.
It's waking up all over. And people are standing up.
I have the feeling, dear world dictator,
that you are going to live the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest
of us are standing up, all those who are rising up against American imperialism,
who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the sovereignty of nations.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Yes, you
can call us extremists, but we are rising up against the empire, against the
model of domination.
The president then -- and this he said
himself, he said: "I have come to speak directly to the populations in the
MiddleEast, to tell them that my country wants peace."
That's true. If we walk in the streets
of the Bronx, if we walk around New York, Washington, San Diego, in any city,
San Antonio, San Francisco, and we ask individuals, the citizens of the United
States, what does this country want? Does it want peace? They'll say yes.
But the government doesn't want peace.
The government of the United States doesn't want peace. It wants to exploit its
system of exploitation, of pillage, of hegemony through war.
It wants peace. But what's happening in
Iraq? What happened in Lebanon? In Palestine? What's happening? What's happened
over the last 100 years in LatinAmerica and in the world? And now threatening
Venezuela -- new threats against Venezuela, against Iran?
He spoke to the people of Lebanon. Many
of you, he said, have seen how your homes and communities were caught in the
crossfire. How cynical can you get? What a capacity to lie shamefacedly. The
bombs in Beirut with millimetric precision?
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is
crossfire? He's thinking of a western, when people would shoot from the hip and
somebody would be caught in the crossfire.
This is imperialist, fascist, assassin,
genocidal, the empire and Israel firing on the people of Palestine and Lebanon.
That is what happened. And now we hear, "We're suffering because we see homes
destroyed.'
The president of the United States came
to talk to the peoples -- to the peoples of the world. He came to say -- I
brought some documents with me, because this morning I was reading some
statements, and I see that he talked to the people of Afghanistan, the people of
Lebanon, the people of Iran. And he addressed all these peoples directly.
And you can wonder, just as the
president of the United States addresses those peoples of the world, what would
those peoples of the world tell him if they were given the floor? What would
they have to say?
And I think I have some inkling of what
the peoples of the south, the oppressed people think. They would say, "Yankee
imperialist, go home." I think that is what those people would say if they were
given the microphone and if they could speak with one voice to the American
imperialists.
And that is why, Madam President, my
colleagues, my friends, last year we came here to this same hall as we have been
doing for the past eight years, and we said something that has now been
confirmed -- fully, fully confirmed.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't
think anybody in this room could defend the system. Let's accept -- let's be
honest. The U.N. system, born after the Second World War, collapsed. It's
worthless.
Oh, yes, it's good to bring us together
once a year, see each other, make statements and prepare all kinds of long
documents, and listen to good speeches, like Abel's (ph) yesterday, or President
Mullah's (ph). Yes, it's good for that.
And there are a lot of speeches, and
we've heard lots from the president of Sri Lanka, for instance, and the
president of Chile.
But we, the assembly, have been turned
into a merely deliberative organ. We have no power, no power to make any impact
on the terrible situation in the world. And that is why Venezuela once again
proposes, here, today, 20 September, that we re-establish the United Nations.
Last year, Madam, we made four modest
proposals that we felt to be crucially important. We have to assume the
responsibility our heads of state, our ambassadors, our representatives, and we
have to discuss it.
The first is expansion, and Mullah (ph)
talked about this yesterday right here. The Security Council, both as it has
permanent and non-permanent categories, (inaudible) developing countries and
LDCs must be given access as new permanent members. That's step one.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Second,
effective methods to address and resolve world conflicts, transparent decisions.
Point three, the immediate suppression
-- and that is something everyone's calling for -- of the anti-democratic
mechanism known as the veto, the veto on decisions of the Security Council.
Let me give you a recent example. The
immoral veto of the United States allowed the Israelis, with impunity, to
destroy Lebanon. Right in front of all of us as we stood there watching, a
resolution in the council was prevented.
Fourthly, we have to strengthen, as
we've always said, the role and the powers of the secretary general of the
United Nations.
Yesterday, the secretary general
practically gave us his speech of farewell. And he recognized that over the last
10 years, things have just gotten more complicated; hunger, poverty, violence,
human rights violations have just worsened. That is the tremendous consequence
of the collapse of the United Nations system and American hegemonistic
pretensions.
Madam, Venezuela a few years ago decided
to wage this battle within the United Nations by recognizing the United Nations,
as members of it that we are, and lending it our voice, our thinking.
Our voice is an independent voice to
represent the dignity and the search for peace and the reformulation of the
international system; to denounce persecution and aggression of hegemonistic
forces on the planet.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is how
Venezuela has presented itself. Bolivar's home has sought a nonpermanent seat on
the Security Council.
Let's see. Well, there's been an open
attack by the U.S. government, an immoral attack, to try and prevent Venezuela
from being freely elected to a post in the Security Council.
The imperium is afraid of truth, is
afraid of independent voices. It calls us extremists, but they are the
extremists.
And I would like to thank all the
countries that have kindly announced their support for Venezuela, even though
the ballot is a secret one and there's no need to announce things.
But since the imperium has attacked,
openly, they strengthened the convictions of many countries. And their support
strengthens us.
Mercosur, as a bloc, has expressed its
support, our brothers in Mercosur. Venezuela, with Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay,
Uruguay, is a full member of Mercosur.
And many other Latin American countries,
CARICOM, Bolivia have expressed their support for Venezuela. The Arab League,
the full Arab League has voiced its support. And I am immensely grateful to the
Arab world, to our Arab brothers, our Caribbean brothers, the African Union.
Almost all of Africa has expressed its support for Venezuela and countries such
as Russia or China and many others.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I thank you
all warmly on behalf of Venezuela, on behalf of our people, and on behalf of the
truth, because Venezuela, with a seat on the Security Council, will be
expressing not only Venezuela's thoughts, but it will also be the voice of all
the peoples of the world, and we will defend dignity and truth.
Over and above all of this, Madam
President, I think there are reasons to be optimistic. A poet would have said
"helplessly optimistic," because over and above the wars and the bombs and the
aggressive and the preventive war and the destruction of entire peoples, one can
see that a new era is dawning.
As Sylvia Rodriguez (ph) says, the era
is giving birth to a heart. There are alternative ways of thinking. There are
young people who think differently. And this has already been seen within the
space of a mere decade. It was shown that the end of history was a totally false
assumption, and the same was shown about Pax Americana and the establishment of
the capitalist neo-liberal world. It has been shown, this system, to generate
mere poverty. Who believes in it now?
What we now have to do is define the
future of the world. Dawn is breaking out all over. You can see it in Africa and
Europe and LatinAmerica and Oceanea. I want to emphasize that optimistic vision.
We have to strengthen ourselves, our
will to do battle, our awareness. We have to build a new and better world.
Venezuela joins that struggle, and
that's why we are threatened. The U.S. has already planned, financed and set in
motion a coup in Venezuela, and it continues to support coup attempts in
Venezuela and elsewhere.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): President
Michelle Bachelet reminded us just a moment ago of the horrendous assassination
of the former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier.
And I would just add one thing: Those
who perpetrated this crime are free. And that other event where an American
citizen also died were American themselves. They were CIA killers, terrorists.
And we must recall in this room that in
just a few days there will be another anniversary. Thirty years will have passed
from this other horrendous terrorist attack on the Cuban plane, where 73
innocents died, a Cubana de Aviacion airliner.
And where is the biggest terrorist of
this continent who took the responsibility for blowing up the plane? He spent a
few years in jail in Venezuela. Thanks to CIA and then government officials, he
was allowed to escape, and he lives here in this country, protected by the
government.
And he was convicted. He has confessed
to his crime. But the U.S. government has double standards. It protects
terrorism when it wants to.
And this is to say that Venezuela is
fully committed to combating terrorism and violence. And we are one of the
people who are fighting for peace.
Luis Posada Carriles is the name of that
terrorist who is protected here. And other tremendously corrupt people who
escaped from Venezuela are also living here under protection: a group that
bombed various embassies, that assassinated people during the coup. They
kidnapped me and they were going to kill me, but I think God reached down and
our people came out into the streets and the army was too, and so I'm here
today.
But these people who led that coup are
here today in this country protected by the American government. And I accuse
the American government of protecting terrorists and of having a completely
cynical discourse.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We
mentioned Cuba. Yes, we were just there a few days ago. We just came from there
happily.
And there you see another era born. The
Summit of the 15, the Summit of the Nonaligned, adopted a historic resolution.
This is the outcome document. Don't worry, I'm not going to read it.
But you have a whole set of resolutions
here that were adopted after open debate in a transparent matter -- more than 50
heads of state. Havana was the capital of the south for a few weeks, and we have
now launched, once again, the group of the nonaligned with new momentum.
And if there is anything I could ask all
of you here, my companions, my brothers and sisters, it is to please lend your
good will to lend momentum to the Nonaligned Movement for the birth of the new
era, to prevent hegemony and prevent further advances of imperialism.
And as you know, Fidel Castro is the
president of the nonaligned for the next three years, and we can trust him to
lead the charge very efficiently.
Unfortunately they thought, "Oh, Fidel
was going to die." But they're going to be disappointed because he didn't. And
he's not only alive, he's back in his green fatigues, and he's now presiding the
nonaligned.
So, my dear colleagues, Madam President,
a new, strong movement has been born, a movement of the south. We are men and
women of the south.
With this document, with these ideas,
with these criticisms, I'm now closing my file. I'm taking the book with me.
And, don't forget, I'm recommending it very warmly and very humbly to all of
you.
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We want
ideas to save our planet, to save the planet from the imperialist threat. And
hopefully in this very century, in not too long a time, we will see this, we
will see this new era, and for our children and our grandchildren a world of
peace based on the fundamental principles of the United Nations, but a renewed
United Nations.
And maybe we have to change location.
Maybe we have to put the United Nations somewhere else; maybe a city of the
south. We've proposed Venezuela.
You know that my personal doctor had to
stay in the plane. The chief of security had to be left in a locked plane.
Neither of these gentlemen was allowed to arrive and attend the U.N. meeting.
This is another abuse and another abuse of power on the part of the Devil. It
smells of sulfur here, but God is with us and I embrace you all.
May God bless us all. Good day to you.
(APPLAUSE)
END

Reproduced from Project
Censored at Sonoma
State University
Chavez' Comments - Strategy Or Ravings?
From The Progressive
By Greg Palast
9-21-6
"I've known Hugo Chavez
for years, let me tell you that man knows a diablo when he sees one." -- Greg
Palast
You'd think George Bush would get down
on his knees and kiss Hugo Chavez's behind. Not only has Chavez delivered cheap
oil to the Bronx and other poor communities in the United States. And not only
did he offer to bring aid to the victims of Katrina. In my interview with the
president of Venezuela on March 28, he made Bush the following astonishing
offer: Chavez would drop the price of oil to $50 a barrel, "not too high, a fair
price," he said -- a third less than the $75 a barrel for oil recently posted on
the spot market. That would bring down the price at the pump by about a buck,
from $3 to $2 a gallon.
But our President has basically told
Chavez to take his cheaper oil and stick it up his pipeline. Before I explain
why Bush has done so, let me explain why Chavez has the power to pull it off --
and the method in the seeming madness of his "take-my-oil-please!" deal.
Venezuela, Chavez told me, has more oil
than Saudi Arabia. A nutty boast? Not by a long shot. In fact, his surprising
claim comes from a most surprising source: the U.S. Department of Energy. In an
internal report, the DOE estimates that Venezuela has five times the Saudis'
reserves. However, most of Venezuela's mega-horde of crude is in the More...form
of "extra-heavy" oil -- liquid asphalt -- which is ghastly expensive to pull up
and refine. Oil has to sell above $30 a barrel to make the investment in
extra-heavy oil worthwhile. A big dip in oil's price -- and, after all, oil cost
only $18 a barrel six years ago -- would bankrupt heavy-oil investors. Hence
Chavez's offer: Drop the price to $50 -- and keep it there. That would guarantee
Venezuela's investment in heavy oil.
But the ascendance of Venezuela within
OPEC necessarily means the decline of the power of the House of Saud. And the
Bush family wouldn't like that one bit. It comes down to "petro-dollars." When
George W. ferried then-Crown Prince (now King) Abdullah of Saudi Arabia around
the Crawford ranch in a golf cart it wasn't because America needs Arabian oil.
The Saudis will always sell us their petroleum. What Bush needs is Saudi petro-dollars.
Saudi Arabia has, over the past three decades, kindly recycled the cash sucked
from the wallets of American SUV owners and sent much of the loot right back to
New York to buy U.S. Treasury bills and other U.S. assets.
The Gulf potentates understand that in
return for lending the U.S. Treasury the cash to fund George Bush's $2 trillion
rise in the nation's debt, they receive protection in return. They lend us petro-dollars,
we lend them the 82nd Airborne.
Chavez would put an end to all that.
He'll sell us oil relatively cheaply -- but intends to keep the petro-dollars in
Latin America. Recently, Chavez withdrew $20 billion from the U.S. Federal
Reserve and, at the same time, lent or committed a like sum to Argentina,
Ecuador, and other Latin American nations.
Chavez, notes The Wall Street Journal,
has become a "tropical IMF." And indeed, as the Venezuelan president told me, he
wants to abolish the Washington-based International Monetary Fund, with its
brutal free-market diktats, and replace it with an "International Humanitarian
Fund," an IHF, or more accurately, an International Hugo Fund. In addition,
Chavez wants OPEC to officially recognize Venezuela as the cartel's reserve
leader, which neither the Saudis nor Bush will take kindly to.
Politically, Venezuela is torn in two.
Chavez's "Bolivarian Revolution," a close replica of Franklin Roosevelt's New
Deal-a progressive income tax, public works, social security, cheap electricity
-- makes him wildly popular with the poor. And most Venezuelans are poor. His
critics, a four-centuries' old white elite, unused to sharing oil wealth,
portray him as a Castro-hugging anti-Christ.
Chavez's government, which used to brush
off these critics, has turned aggressive on them. I challenged Chavez several
times over charges brought against Sumate, his main opposition group. The two
founders of the nongovernmental organization, which led the recall campaign
against Chavez, face eight years in prison for taking money from the Bush
Administration and the International Republican [Party] Institute. No nation
permits foreign funding of political campaigns, but the charges (no one is in
jail) seem like a heavy hammer to use on the minor infractions of these pathetic
gadflies.
Bush's reaction to Chavez has been a mix
of hostility and provocation. Washington supported the coup attempt against
Chavez in 2002, and Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld have repeatedly
denounced him. The revised National Security Strategy of the United States of
America, released in March, says, "In Venezuela, a demagogue awash in oil money
is undermining democracy and seeking to destabilize the region."
So when the Reverend Pat Robertson, a
Bush ally, told his faithful in August 2005 that Chavez has to go, it was not
unreasonable to assume that he was articulating an Administration wish. "If he
thinks we're trying to assassinate him," Robertson said, "I think that we really
ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war . . .
and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."
There are only two ways to defeat the
rise of Chavez as the New Abdullah of the Americas. First, the unattractive
option: Cut the price of oil below $30 a barrel. That would make Chavez's crude
worthless. Or, option two: Kill him.
Q: Your opponents are saying that you
are beginning a slow-motion dictatorship. Is that what we are seeing?
Hugo Chavez: They have been saying that
for a long time. When they're short of ideas, any excuse will do as a vehicle
for lies. That is totally false. I would like to invite the citizens of Great
Britain and the citizens of the U.S. and the citizens of the world to come here
and walk freely through the streets of Venezuela, to talk to anyone they want,
to watch television, to read the papers. We are building a true democracy, with
human rights for everyone, social rights, education, health care, pensions,
social security, and jobs.
Q: Some of your opponents are being
charged with the crime of taking money from George Bush. Will you send them to
jail?
Chavez: It's not up to me to decide
that. We have the institutions that do that. These people have admitted they
have received money from the government of the United States. It's up to the
prosecutors to decide what to do, but the truth is that we can't allow the U.S.
to finance the destabilization of our country. What would happen if we financed
somebody in the U.S. to destabilize the government of George Bush? They would go
to prison, certainly.
Q: How do you respond to Bush's charge
that you are destabilizing the region and interfering in the elections of other
Latin American countries?
Chavez: Mr. Bush is an illegitimate
President. In Florida, his brother Jeb deleted many black voters from the
electoral registers. So this President is the result of a fraud. Not only that,
he is also currently applying a dictatorship in the U.S. People can be put in
jail without being charged. They tap phones without court orders. They check
what books people take out of public libraries. They arrested Cindy Sheehan
because of a T-shirt she was wearing demanding the return of the troops from
Iraq. They abuse blacks and Latinos. And if we are going to talk about meddling
in other countries, then the U.S. is the champion of meddling in other people's
affairs. They invaded Guatemala, they overthrew Salvador Allende, invaded Panama
and the Dominican Republic. They were involved in the coup d'etat in Argentina
thirty years ago.
Q: Is the U.S. interfering in your
elections here?
Chavez: They have interfered for 200
years. They have tried to prevent us from winning the elections, they supported
the coup d'etat, they gave millions of dollars to the coup plotters, they
supported the media, newspapers, outlaw movements, military intervention, and
espionage. But here the empire is finished, and I believe that before the end of
this century, it will be finished in the rest of the world. We will see the
burial of the empire of the eagle.
Q: You don't interfere in the elections
of other nations in Latin America?
Chavez: Absolutely not. I concern myself
with Venezuela. However, what's going on now is that some rightwing movements
are transforming me into a pawn in the domestic politics of their countries, by
making statements that are groundless. About candidates like Morales [of
Bolivia], for example. They said I financed the candidacy of President Lula [of
Brazil], which is totally false. They said I financed the candidacy of Kirchner
[of Argentina], which is totally false. In Mexico, recently, the rightwing party
has used my image for its own profit. What's happened is that in Latin America
there is a turn to the left. Latin Americans have gotten tired of the Washington
consensus -- a neoliberalism that has aggravated misery and poverty.
Q: You have spent millions of dollars of
your nation's oil wealth throughout Latin America. Are you really helping these
other nations or are you simply buying political support for your regime?
Chavez: We are brothers and sisters.
That's one of the reasons for the wrath of the empire. You know that Venezuela
has the biggest oil reserves in the world. And the biggest gas reserves in this
hemisphere, the eighth in the world. Up until seven years ago, Venezuela was a
U.S. oil colony. All of our oil was going up to the north, and the gas was being
used by the U.S. and not by us. Now we are diversifying. Our oil is helping the
poor. We are selling to the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, some Central
American countries, Uruguay, Argentina.
Q: And the Bronx?
Chavez: In the Bronx it is a donation.
In all the cases I just mentioned before, it is trade. However, it's not free
trade, just fair commerce. We also have an international humanitarian fund as a
result of oil revenues.
Q: Why did George Bush turn down your
help for New Orleans after the hurricane?
Chavez: You should ask him, but from the
very beginning of the terrible disaster of Katrina, our people in the U.S., like
the president of CITGO, went to New Orleans to rescue people. We were in close
contact by phone with Jesse Jackson. We hired buses. We got food and water. We
tried to protect them; they are our brothers and sisters. Doesn't matter if they
are African, Asian, Cuban, whatever.
Q: Are you replacing the World Bank and
the International Monetary Fund as "Daddy Big Bucks"?
Chavez: I do wish that the IMF and the
World Bank would disappear soon.
Q: And it would be the Bank of Hugo?
Chavez: No. The International
Humanitarian Bank. We are just creating an alternative way to conduct financial
exchange. It is based on cooperation. For example, we send oil to Uruguay for
their refinery and they are paying us with cows.
Q: Milk for oil.
Chavez: That's right. Milk for oil. The
Argentineans also pay us with cows. And they give us medical equipment to combat
cancer. It's a transfer of technology. We also exchange oil for software
technology. Uruguay is one of the biggest producers of software. We are breaking
with the neoliberal model. We do not believe in free trade. We believe in fair
trade and exchange, not competition but cooperation. I'm not giving away oil for
free. Just using oil, first to benefit our people, to relieve poverty. For a
hundred years we have been one of the largest oil-producing countries in the
world but with a 60 percent poverty rate and now we are canceling the historical
debt.
Q: Speaking of the free market, you've
demanded back taxes from U.S. oil companies. You have eliminated contracts for
North American, British, and European oil companies. Are you trying to slice out
the British and American oil companies from Venezuela?
Chavez: No, we don't want them to go,
and I don't think they want to leave the country, either. We need each other.
It's simply that we have recovered our oil sovereignty. They didn't pay taxes.
They didn't pay royalties. They didn't give an account of their actions to the
government. They had more land than had previously been established in the
contracts. They didn't comply with the agreed technology exchange. They polluted
the environment and didn't pay anything towards the cleanup. They now have to
comply with the law.
Q: You've said that you imagine the
price of oil rising to $100 dollars per barrel. Are you going to use your new
oil wealth to squeeze the planet?
Chavez: No, no. We have no intention of
squeezing anyone. Now, we have been squeezed and very hard. Five hundred years
of squeezing us and stifling us, the people of the South. I do believe that
demand is increasing and supply is dropping and the large reservoirs are running
out. But it's not our fault. In the future, there must be an agreement between
the large consumers and the large producers.
Q: What happens when the oil money runs
out, what happens when the price of oil falls as it always does? Will the
Bolivarian revolution of Hugo Chavez simply collapse because there's no money to
pay for the big free ride?
Chavez: I don't think it will collapse,
in the unlikely case of oil running out today. The revolution will survive. It
does not rely solely on oil for its survival. There is a national will, there is
a national idea, a national project. However, we are today implementing a
strategic program called the Oil Sowing Plan: using oil wealth so Venezuela can
become an agricultural country, a tourist destination, an industrialized country
with a diversified economy. We are investing billions of dollars in the
infrastructure: power generators using thermal energy, a large railway, roads,
highways, new towns, new universities, new schools, recuperating land, building
tractors, and giving loans to farmers. One day we won't have any more oil, but
that will be in the twenty-second century. Venezuela has oil for another 200
years.
Q: But the revolution can come to an end
if there's another coup and it succeeds. Do you believe Bush is still trying to
overthrow your government?
Chavez: He would like to, but what you
want is one thing, and what you cannot really obtain is another.
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Greg Palast is the author of the
just-released New York Times bestseller, "ARMED MADHOUSE: Who's Afraid of Osama
Wolf?, China Floats Bush Sinks, the Scheme to Steal '08, No Child's Behind Left
and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War" from which this is
adapted. Go to www.GregPalast.com .
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