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Gnostic Liberation Front Responds
To Attacks
From
fantastic planet Web
Site
And A So Called
"Gnosis Institute"
To Father Luke of
the former Process Church
To Ungrateful Accusations By Forum Members
Who Ordered and Received FREE
Horoscopes
"Fantastic Planet's" Jeremy Puma calls us
"racist and anti-Semitic pseudo Gnostics"...
Well, He should know....
This is the "head honcho", the very
Reverend
Rev. Troy W. Pierce
Esteemed "scholar" of the "Gnosis Institute"...
Go Also to "Letters to the
Gnostic Liberation Front"
Here is the mindless attack:
March 28, 2006: :
jpgnosis,
politix,
the con
Anti-semitic rascist Pseudo-Gnostics
Pictures of Jeremy Puma
Just found them on the internet...Now I think that I understand his
"outrage" at our web site!
Like the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words"...
I recently ran across the website of the so-called
“Gnostic
Liberation Front” (warning: bigotry and
misconception abounds).
Of course, bigoted assholes have been using
spirituality to defend their exclusionist nonsense for years. The
Theosophical Society essentially (some argue purposefully) spawned the
myth of the Aryan Super Race, and let’s not forget how many modern
white-seperatist militias and other jerkoffs claim a Christian basis for
their exclusionist delusions. I suppose this site simply irks me to such
an extent because I’d never seen words from the Gospel of Thomas on the
same page as
a huge defense of Joe McCarthy!
I’ve added the “Gnostic Liberation Front” to
the list of Bullshit Pseudo-Gnostics on the
Varieties of Modern Gnosticism article. This little post is more for
people who might be searching for Gnosticism and come across the “GLF.”
Thank the Limitless Light that morons like this
are the exception to the Gnostic Way and not the rule.
Jeffrey from "Fantastic
Planet," continues his rant:
1. Bullshit Psuedo-”Gnosticism”:
Every investigation into Gnosticism
must begin with the understanding that Gnosticism refers to a
very specific method of spiritual inquiry with a very specific symbolic
tradition, and just because an organization refers to themselves as
“Gnostic” doesn’t automatically make it so. There are profound
similarities between Zen Buddhism, Sufism, Taoism, etc. and Gnosticism.
However, they are different traditions and have different symbologies
and story-systems. We can draw attention to the similarities, but that
doesn’t mean that any mystical tradition automatically
gets to call itself Gnostic.
The individuals who have
hijacked Gnosticism in this manner (peddlers of bullshit) mostly run in
“New Age” circles; it’s a safe bet that if someone in the New Age
movement refers to said movement as “Gnostic,” they’re either uninformed
or taking advantage of the fact that the Gnostics possessed some kind of
“hidden wisdom” which could be bought or sold. Obviously, any shuckster
with the ability to read and the desire to make a few quick bucks can
claim to be “Gnostic.” Any so-called “secret tradition” will always be
suceptible to people who will gladly charge a hefty fee to release this
information to scam-suceptible individuals. Gnosticism, however, doesn’t
charge fees, and the information therein is by no means “secret”– it’s
freely available to the seeker. If you’re *expected* to pay any sort of
fees, you’re not involved in a truly Gnostic organization.
There is also no strict or
specific Gnostic dogma. New Age Pseudo-Gnostics will consistently insist
that their secret knowledge is *the* Secret Knowledge that will Save the
World. They’ll also insist that their detractors have the right to
disagree, but they only disagree because they haven’t yet been
“initiated” into the Inner Mysteries. Free inquiry is only allowed on
their terms.
Gnosticism is also heavily
dependent on specific mythological concepts. Because they are
mythological concepts, and stem from an Internal Mystery, they cannot be
codified or crystalized! The Gnostics employed a great variety of often
contradictory teachings and experiences and myth cycles which can’t be
consolidated into a single text (other than the inner text of the
individual seeker). No Urantia Book or Gaia Hypothesis can be
considered Gnostic.
More than anything, Gnosticism,
by its nature, cannot be a personality cult. Some forms of Gnosticism
can and do have priests, but the priests support and serve the entire
congregation, not vice-versa. If one or two individuals’ personalities
becomes the focus of the organization, this isn’t Gnosticism, it’s a
personality cult. In true Gnosticism, the only one making edicts is the
Inner Light of the individual.
“Gnosis” is a great concept, and
since it’s based on individual experience, it can pretty easily be
co-opted by unscrupulous jerkwads. One cannot be charged for
enlightenment; nor can one have it granted by a powerful personality;
nor can it be found in rigid rules and literal structural systems. The
ultimate arbitor, however, of what qualifies as valid Gnosticism is the
individual seeker and direct experience.
EXAMPLES OF BULLSHIT PSUEDO-GNOSTICISM:
The “Church” of $cientology
Ramtha’s
School of Enlightenement — The American Gnostic School
Samuel Aun Weor
Laura Knight-Jadczyk’s
Cassiopaeans
The so-called “Gnostic
Liberation Front”
3 Responses
Gnostic
Liberation Front responds:
How the Gnostic Liberation Front fits in with
Scientology, Ramtha and even Samuel Aun Weor and New Age stuff, I don't know. Yes Jeffrey you are
indeed a "rising star" in contemporary ignorance....Jeffrey Puma eh...wonder
where this would lead us! But I'm sure "Bogomil" will support your ignorance and
so will the "Gnostic Football Player" what was his name...? Fantastic Planet
ha....sounds very "un-Gnostic" to me......
Jeremy Puma from "Fantastic
Planet" responds:
Most modern Gnostics
find the writings of
Eric Voegelin,
who claims that the Nazis were a modern manifestation of
Gnosticism, rather ill-informed and based on a cursory
understanding. Mr. Haffke, however, seems to have taken
Voegelin’s theories to heart and instead of taking umbrage,
agrees with them. (I find it interesting that his final dig at
my site seems to be about the fact that I use advertising,
whereas he offers free horoscopes and astrological readings made
with “expensive matrix software.” I don’t really have any
comment on that, but it’s definitely interesting, no?)
Now, since I obviously
disagree with Mr. Haffke about 99.99999%, I have no interest in
wasting time arguing the difference between Gnosticism and “Gnaztisicm,”
as it were. I’ve mentioned before that I think the subject of
politics can turn into a nasty rhetorical cesspool, and has no
place in discussion of spiritual matters (seperation of church
and state and all that). Gnosticism was never, historically, a
political movement (nor was Canonical Christianity intended to
become one, for that matter), and I tend to think that trying to
combine Gnosticism and politics is like trying to combine
vanilla ice-cream and tuna salad. You can do it, but if you’re
able to keep it down, the horrible taste will most likely stay
in your mouth for weeks.
No, what I’m
interested in is the border between “my” Gnosticism and “your”
Gnosticism, the subject and object. In other words, is a
pro-Nazi “Gnostic” the same thing as a non-Nazi “Gnostic,” and
should one tolerate the other? I’ve addressed similar questions
in the past (see “Gnosticism,
Homosexuality and Sola Scriptura“),
and personally believe that there is no room for hatred in
Gnosticism. But, is it okay to hate people who hate?
My personal view is that
Gnosticism is a path of self-knowledge and compassion and
humility. I do indeed have a difficult time living up to these
characteristics, but I see no room within the modern Gnostic
movement for those who choose to focus their Gnosticism on
hatred, on fear, on the affairs of the world. That’s my opinion,
and I welcome Mr. Haffke to disagree with me as vehemently as I
disagree with him. I won’t change my mind, and he won’t change
his, and that’s fine. I don’t hate him one bit, but in my mind,
if you espouse and defend a belief system that opposes
X-individuals for Y-external reasons, you don’t get a membership
card. Sorry!
Some original Gnostics
were certainly anti-Semitic. Some were certainly homophobic.
Yes, some of the original Gnostics were even “personality
cults.” My question doesn’t, however, concern the original
Gnostics– the question concerns *us*! Just because our forebears
were this or that thing, are we also so required? Or, can we
actually be Gnostics, and listen to gnosis, and live the life of
love and compassion that Jesus talks about? Can’t we repudiate
the works of the Archon, even if they appear within the writings
of our predecessors?
And, equally
important, if someone disagrees that Gnosticism is about love
and compassion, or wants to compare Gnosticism to Nazism or use
it to support this or that political figure, where do we draw
the line? Or, should we even try to draw lines? Even though I
often use “blue” language and combative terminology, I’m really
not out to change anyone’s mind. I pointed out this “GLP” site
not to say, “hey, let’s gang up on him and force him to change
his mind!” Instead, I was saying, “beware– here is a site that
conflates Gnosticism and anti-Semiticism, etc., if you, like me,
find this troubling, here is this site.” I’ve stated before that
Gnosticism is indefensible,
but does that also mean that if we vehemently disagree with
another’s approach to the subject we should always keep silent?
This is a serious question– what do you think?
Look, Gnosticism is
about experiencing gnosis. I challenge anyone who claims to have
had this experience to find justification not within the works
of the original Gnostics, not within the vague and shadowy
trappings of politics, not within the books of philosophers, but
within h/er own indwelling spirit, to find a place for hatred,
for exclusionary action, for room to fight against any group, no
matter how despicable.
Holger
responds:
Jeremy, oh Jeremy, yes,
the ideal is Gnosis-Knowledge-Wisdom and I would never dispute
that, but...but, you know, calling yourself a Gnostic or
professing to be a believer in Gnosticism doesn't necessarily
mean that you have attained Gnosis, does it? We are all human
beings striving, however feebly, to attain this goal. Neither
you nor I have reached this ultimate "pearl of great price",
have we?
You talk a lot of truth and also some "New Age" mumbo
jumbo. Talk is cheap. And I too get trapped in the same fantasy
of words at times. I have no problem with that either. What you
don't seem to understand is, that I am not representing any
specific form or creed of Gnosticism but that I am speaking and
writing about the GNOSTIC PERSONA as in PERSONALITY, nothing
more and nothing less.
You might have a Gnostic Personality
without ever reading or hearing about Gnosticism. That's the
reason for my claim that true Gnostics have to be born Gnostics
and that one can't convert to Gnosticism as one would convert to
Christianity, Judaism (not that easy), Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism
or what have you. Gnostics, true Gnostics alone can convert to
Gnosticism... So what true Gnostics do is to AWAKEN born
Gnostics to their inherent birthright. True Gnostics AWAKEN and
GATHER the "lost" Gnostics but never convert the masses who are
not born Gnostics, as they are not ready to attain Gnosis. Did
not Jesus say to not throw the pearls before the swine (sorry to
offend your "politically correct" sensibilities, but those were
his words, I believe.)
My particular path is to AWAKEN. I am a
drummer...so to speak and nothing more. We live in a rotten
world, saturated with evil which is groaning under the suffering
of man and animals alike and I am not ever excusing or
encouraging evil in any form or shape if I can help it. But
facts are facts and truth is truth no matter where it comes from
or where it leads to in the short run.
The born Gnostic's first
Awakening comes when he becomes aware of the evils and
injustices of this world. By his very nature he is driven,
through an inner compulsion, to find answers and solutions to
this problem which is weighing like lead on his soul and thus he
becomes a heretic and "revolutionary".
At first this is only a
mental attitude which grows and pressures him into action. What
action can he take? He explores the possibilities according to
his inherent temperament and genetic make up and finds himself
attracted to religion, philosophy and utopian political
ideologies. Dogmatic religions don't satisfy his need for
experience of the divine and philosophies are much to sedate for
his need to act out his awareness that things need to change
NOW.
Thus the true Gnostic's quest leads him into the realm of
utopian radical politics. He begins to explore, according to his
temperament and background, either Communism, National
Socialism, Fascism, Zionism (if he is Jewish) or off-springs of
those ideologies. Nothing else will do because all of the other
ideologies are much to tame and corrupted by the powers of the
status quo.
His motives are pure and noble, helping mankind and
himself is the goal. He is an Idealist, naturally, and he wants
to follow his inner drive for justice and a "New Order" in this
ugly, unjust world. And he knows that only a revolutionary,
radical movement can do the job. He instinctively wants to
finish the job which the "archons" couldn't or wouldn't do. He
wants to create "paradise" on earth and nothing less.
So he
joins a movement according to his temperament and background
which, most likely, will be either Communist or Zionist or
National Socialist. He is young and naive and believes that
others are as idealistic and selfless as he is. Gradually he
finds things in their ideology with which he doesn't agree, but
in the interest of the final goal he compromises and submits to
the cause.
As time goes on, he learns that there is a lot of
stuff going on, behind the scenes, things which he normally
abhors, but he is already much to deeply committed to the
"cause" to turn away now. He has, by this time, attained rank
and prestige in the movement and he feels strongly that he can
eventually correct and change what he doesn't like in the
movement and he compromises again "for the time being".
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Well, I could go on and on and relate this short story to either
Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Rosenberg, Hess, Goebbels and so
many more born Gnostics in the realm of utopian politics. With
the exception of Rosenberg and perhaps Hess and Hitler, these
men had probably never heard of Gnosticism but were,
nevertheless, GNOSTIC PERSONALITIES who had never attained
GNOSIS.
And, you see Jeremy, it is those born Gnostics which I
am attempting to AWAKEN to the path of GNOSIS. And it is exactly
this reasoning which leads me to connect utopian politics with
Gnosticism.
These were all strong Gnostic Personalities who
desperately wanted to change this rotten world and ended up
becoming worse oppressors than the ones they overthrew, because
they set out to "liberate" the world without being LIBERATED
themselves!
Like a rolling stone, things just escalated and
escalated until it all got out of control. Were these people,
these Gnostic brothers, inherently evil? I don't think so....
They did, or people of less sophistication under them did, evil
deeds, desperate measures where the end, they thought, justified
the means, but their dreams were to help mankind..... to create
an earthly paradise!
No matter, though, who rules, be it
Capitalist plutocrats in conjunction with Zionist racist
dreamers today, or those whom I mentioned before, the sheeple,
the ignorant masses, will always be victimized and exploited in
endless wars for profit and power.
The conspiracies for world
dominion are real and so is the Zionist pipe dream behind it.
Why do I "soil" the Gnostic reputation with this material on my
"pseudo-Gnostic" website should be a no brainer: As I said
before, I see myself as an AWAKENER and drummer to lead those
born Gnostics looking for the path into shocking awareness and
then, hopefully, into the spiritual realm of GNOSIS.
I don't
believe that a purely spiritual approach can reach these strong
Gnostic Personalities as they are much to concerned with worldly
things and tastes of power then to feel any kind of attraction
towards a "namby pamby" gutless spirituality, Gnostic or
otherwise.
As to being "anti-Semitic" or racist, I don't believe
that those labels are meaningful in any sense whatsoever. Surely
I am NOT "politically correct" and how can any honest person go
along with this victimization of truth? I am intelligent and a
born Gnostic and I search for the TRUTH no matter what. When I
am convinced of something I speak out regardless of whom it
might offend.
Since the so called "New World Order" is a
conspiracy with deep roots in Jewish Zionism, I speak out about
it, because I want to make others aware of what is going on. If
that is "anti-Semitism", then I am an "anti-Semite". If it were
rooted in "Aryanism" or "pan-Germanism" or American Imperialism,
I would speak out and condemn them in the same way.
Germans
were, and still are, blamed for going along with National
Socialism and that is generally speaking true. And I blame, in
the same manner, Jews for going along with Zionism, generally
speaking. And I also blame Americans for going along with the
Imperialism of Bush and their relationship with Zionism,
generally speaking....So then this would make me a "anti-Americanist"
as well as an "anti-Semite", right?
If I point out and criticize
blacks because of their criminality and anti-white racism,
generally speaking, that would make me a "simple" "racist",
right?
Well, I believe that since all this is going on in the
world and in our "great nation", it is my duty to point all this
out, especially since otherwise I would be a cowardly hypocrite
and "asshole" as you called me with pious self-righteousness...
But the truth is, and I speak again with all honesty, that I do
NOT hate or even dislike you Jeremy, nor Jews, nor Americans,
nor blacks.
My mistake perhaps, dear Jeremy, is that I am just
simply AWAKE and that I trust my-self and my perception of
things with the somewhat distant realism of the Gnostic
"outsider"....And that I speak and write the TRUTH as I see it.
This being the pre-disposition of any true Gnostic, I can simply
not delude myself into a "spiritual retreat" and ignore the
menace at hand.
If I had lived as an adult during Hitler's Third
Reich, I would probably be in a concentration camp or I could
have been an ardent nazi and hanged in Nuremberg...And the same
applies to Stalin's gulags or being a member of the politburo,
only that then I wouldn't have been executed because of
"politically correct" hypocrites in the west who would turn a
blind eye towards my crimes against humanity...ha, what a world,
Jeremy!
But I am here now, in the good old USA, and, hell, I am
AWAKE and I be damned if I will keep quiet because of labels
applied to me by ignorant young fools.
I am a drummer, Jeremy,
and I also know how to blow the fanfare....those are my kinds of
instruments...while you play the fiddle, or guitar perhaps...
But we all play in the Gnostic orchestra of the infinite God of
Love....Please do remember that, Jeremy, even though you refuse
me a "membership card".
....And, by the way, Jeremy,
I
never espoused a belief
system that opposes anybody for any reasons! But I do defend
belief systems, even Zionism, in the sense that I need to learn
and absorb all about them, the details, you know, to be able to
understand and AWAKEN the lost born Gnostics caught up in them,
as I too could have been one of them!
....So go in peace
Jeremy and leave me the hell alone. You are much to young and
inexperienced to sit in judgment of me or my web site. Perhaps a
little less talk of humility and compassion and more action in
these regards would make you a better and more honest man....And
PLEASE don't ever CHALLENGE anyone lest YOU be CHALLENGED by the
TRUTH...
And Here Is
Another "Attack" This Time From A Newly Started
"Gnosis Institute"
Perhaps The Web
Address Below Says It ALL...
http://gnosticshop.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=52
Sign up for
large amounts of money and become a "certified Gnostic"..
Good God, who are these self proclaimed "Gnostics" with their spectacular titles
such as "Reverend"
and "Fellow" and "Lecturer" and probably soon we have another "Bishop" or even
"Pope"..
And above ALL don't forget to shop till you drop and get all your "Gnostic"
T-Shirts, Bumper-stickers
and whatever else we can "stiff" you for...
Is our dear Jeremy Puma with you??? Or is he waiting in the "wings" to see how
successful your
commercial venture turns out to be. Or is it a "co-incidence" that this
"Gnostic" nonsense
has perpetuated itself into this "holy abode" of "Gnostic Research"???
Here is a
picture of the leader of the pack from their web site:
What's With The Collar
Dear "Rev"?
You Crave Respect And Obedience, Don't YOU?
Couldn't Get Into The Catholic Priesthood And Then You Discovered That
Gnosticism
Still Had Many Less Demanding Openings..?
And Why No REAL Photo Of YOU and Your "Fellows"?
Dear Rev, this "odd
character" is not fooled by your web site and your "authoritative" posturing!
And it must be YOU or one of your "FELLOWS" who entered your "Vogelinian"
conclusions into
Wikipedia...Although, if you had
any understanding at all, you couldn't possibly relate us to this anti-Gnostic
"scholar" of dubious heritage and respectability.
Well, you must be really desperate to defame fellow Gnostics. Of course I mean
that in a sarcastic sense, since you
are obviously no Gnostic at all but just an opportunistic "wanna be". In your
little article you have put together various quotations
from my writings. Why not be fair and publish all the articles from which you
took them?
Some reasonable people would call it "taking something out of context"! I call
it a "schmeer" job not worthy of
a self-proclaimed Gnostic "Reverend" at all. Or, perhaps, just the opposite.. But then,
when you have ulterior motives you do what you can to "get the job done" no
matter what, right?
"Haffke appears to have
started with Voegelin's strange
misappropriation of the term Gnosticism to
mean political movements that attempt to
create a utopia on earth through political
means, and appropriated that himself for use
in a conspiracy filled paranoid fantasy..."
Really
now, esteemed "Reverend", "conspiracy filled paranoid fantasy????"
So, then, you believe that all is well on planet earth and there is neither a
New World Order, or a cabal behind it?
Then, my dear "Reverend" it surely is not me who is the nut here, is it???
Perhaps it is your collar which is to tight, or you are too deeply immersed in
your dreams of "Reverential" opportunities
and money making scams to notice what is going on in this world of ours? Please
do wake up, AWAKEN as the real Gnostics
would call it, and do something positive instead of attacking what you don't
understand...
Or perhaps you do and have sold out to the Archons and the Demiurge... in the
form of the NWO cabal?
Be that as it may, who indeed appointed you to sit in judgment and to decide
what is Gnostic, Vogelinian, or for that matter
ANYTHING???
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Holger Werner Haffke
Associated
Terms
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The
Gnostic Liberation Front
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New
World Order & other Conspiracy terms
Doctrine:
Why "Gnostic" Liberation Front?
"So
my point in choosing "Gnostic Liberation
Front" as title is to challenge the Jewish
power and influence upon Christianity and,
of course, upon the affairs of this world. I
feel that it was a mistake of the early
Church to have connected the New Testament
with the Old Testament of murder slaughter
and brutality and a god who calls for this.
Otherwise I appreciate the Catholic Church
and just wished that the Vatican had not
become corrupted by the adepts of
Luciferian
evil. ...
"Also I should mention that basically I mean
to apply Gnosticism to a Neo-Gnostic
political approach in the sense of idealism.
I see Gnostics, in our day, as nothing but
born idealists who want to "set things
right" this would include the whole range of
idealistic political philosophies which
attract idealistic people looking for a
change of the "established order" which
today is, of course, the left and right
caught up in Illuminati-Freemason-Zionist
manipulated movements. Since they too are
considered "Gnostic", I am attempting to
fight fire with fire, so to speak. We are
approaching now a time of total New World
Order rule and people need to understand
what is really going on."
Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories:
"Again, on two points you are correct
though. One, my website is “anti-Semitic”
although... But let’s ignore that and just
go along with “anti-Semitic.” Which I
definitely am. Not that I hate Jews but
that, to say it again, I have come to the
conclusion that the coming New World Order
is first and foremost Zionist controlled
through the Rothschild’s and that the
average Jews are in general going along with
it just like the Germans did with Hitler!
"And I do believe that the so called
Holocaust is a sham in regards to the
mythical 6 million murdered in gas chambers.
The Holocaust is of such importance to Jews
and to the New World Order, because it is
the foundation of the racist state of Israel
and also the hush motive against any
critique’ of Israel, Zionism and the One
World agenda of the New World Order. It
should be quite obvious to any honest
researcher that the “Holocaust Revisionists”
of today are as persecuted, maligned,
smeared, financially ruined and jailed in
Europe as the Gnostics and Heretics were for
centuries."
Sources: Holger Haffke, from his web site
Conclusion
There is not much to say in regards to this
odd character. He would not merit listing
here, except that he is very active, and his
claims to be "Gnostic" are so wrong, so
delusional, and so offensive.
Haffke appears to have
started with Voegelin's strange
misappropriation of the term Gnosticism to
mean political movements that attempt to
create a utopia on earth through political
means, and appropriated that himself for use
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All links in the previous article were
added by Gnostic Liberation Front.
Another comment from Holger W.
Haffke:
No, dear "Reverend" it's
NOT
Gnosticism, but
the Gnostics, -the Gnostic personalities behind these political
movements, that I refer to. "Haffke" has not ever read this elusive "Voegelin", nor
does any of his writings have anything to do with him. Perhaps you can't
understand that I adhere to Gnosticism and praise Gnostics as the "movers and
shakers" of mankind's evolution:
"Our
basic philosophy is, that indeed, the originators of all "utopian" political
movements were and still are Gnostic type personalities. These are reformers and
revolutionaries who sometimes were able to bring about change for better or
worse from an inner need to find solutions to the evils and injustices of this
world. -People who had the drive, insight and self-sacrificial mentality to
"swim against the stream" no matter what.
We actually find Voegelin to be an intolerable fool, if nothing else, for
his claim that Gnostics were the originators of most of the evil on this
planet."
So where do you get this "Voegelinian" fixation? Perhaps from the ADL???
Something is very strange about your hatred and venom concerning the Gnostic
Liberation Front...and it is almost exclusively devoted to my "deluded"
conclusions that the so called "New World Order" is almost entirely based upon
"Talmudic" hatred and Jewish racism as self proclaimed "Chosen People". And NO,
I don't mean that all Jews are guilty....But they do stick together with the
"tribe" no matter how they really feel! And, Of course, there are exceptions and
thank God for that! And, of course, it is useless for me to argue the point with
you since you obviously have a closed mind AND AN AGENDA. Or do you feel anything? Perhaps you
are just
"riding the current", so to speak, in order to gain certain advantages? Jeremy Puma
must be proud of you as he too feels so compelled to attack me on the same
grounds. Well, you have succeeded to curry favor with the "establishment," but
now what?
What does your conscience tell you dear "Reverend"?
Oh, No, Not another Attack!!!
This one concerning my
one time interest
in The Process Church of the Final Judgement.
Somebody on the
internet just made me aware of this blog
on 10-21-06:
Written by
Edward Mason, formerly Father Luke...of The Process:
Holger's nightmare
by
skepticaltheurgist on
Mon 17 Apr 2006 04:16 PM EDT
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Cosmos
The Process often said it was a mirror
in which people saw themselves. That, it claimed, was a function of the
open-eyed acceptance with which it met all and sundry: people simply
projected onto it whatever they were concealing from themselves. The same
thing, be it noted, was said about Aleister Crowley, which could explain why
some found him to be a powerful focus of sacred power and others insisted
they encountered a cesspool of human depravity. When there is, effectively,
a complete absence of reactivity in another, that individual or that group
simply take on the qualities concealed inside the observer.
My own dealings with Holger Haffke
have been solely by email. I contributed some pieces to his website -
www.gnosticliberationfront.com - a few years ago, then
broke off after some acrimonious exchanges about his obsession with
Holocaust denial. The site disappeared for a time, but recently came back
up.
Before our correspondence stopped,
he admitted to me that he couldn't understand the Processean concept of the
mind. This is understandable, because it's not that easy to absorb from
scratch. What was more difficult for me to accept was his level of
suspicion, which made him almost unreachable. He seemed narcissistic and
self-pitying (read the autobiographical “A Gnostic Childhood” on the site to
grasp my point) and paranoid. As I experienced him, he was locked into a
perspective of the Germans having been unjustly stigmatised after WW2, and
this fed back into his rejection of the fact of the Holocaust. His sense of
the importance of his own experiences was something I couldn't relate to
what he actually said about his life, and any effort to question this met
with snarling scorn. I can already see the comment he might post to this
blog in response, damning me for my meanness, ignorance, and sense of my own
superiority.
Holger discovered a couple of
Process magazines a few months before the original Church folded in 1974. He
waited a little before checking the thing out in person, only to find it no
longer existed, except as its own bastard child, The Foundation Faith. His
grief and loss at this (“In my heart, soul and spirit, there has been and
still is, such a deep longing for The PROCESS” he says on the site)
underline what I'm saying about his odd self-pity.
The charisma of The Process is now
surely stale-dated, yet it continues to influence many, Holger clearly
included. It's as if that open stance, that straight, wide-eyed look, is
still somehow active. Thwarted in the 1970s, Holger had a wild hope three
years ago that he had rediscovered The Process' hidden core, only to learn
(whether he would acknowledge it or not) that he had run across a couple of
hyped-up and very junior Processeans without much clue or credibility. The
efforts of some people to point this out made him conclude he was facing “a
well organized and well orchestrated operation” to discourage and mislead
him. I'm apparently one of the people he means by this; his learning that
I'm in contact with a few ex-members only deepened his sense of an exclusive
conspiracy. A mean part of me finds this funny; a more thoughtful part finds
it sad; and my most objective part finds it irrelevant. I don't overrate
this blog's minuscule significance in the world, but I get the feeling
Holger overrates that of himself and his website.
It was suggested that I tell him to
take my contributions off the site, and I considered it. But I think they
give it some balance, especially when he is saying, for example, that he has
read Maury Terry's dreadful book Ultimate Evil and finds Terry's
“claims and research are solid and impeccable.” In this, I see him
projecting that paranoid, self-pitying streak again, and finding kinship
with a nut-job who floats around in the murky, shallow waters of tabloid
journalism.
The Holocaust doesn't die. There are
still people alive haunted by its horrors, as there are some Germans, like
Holger, who can't acknowledge it and move on.
My job often puts me in contact with
German-trained engineers, so I sometimes deal with people who still carry
inside them the anguish of the War and the desperate decade that followed
it. Most have accepted history, and bear its scars as best they can. A few
cannot: though both groups have a hard time talking much about it. It's far
easier to disown the whole thing and project it onto a group such as The
Process that, however bizarre and dishonest it could be about itself, did
really nothing anyone would call criminal.
“I can no longer deny,” Holger adds
on the site, “that in my heart and soul, I believe that The Process Church
was the seed to a variety of murderous Satanist cults, who are more then
ever busy in their work of fomenting chaos and murderous evil, including
child-abductions and pornography upon this earth. I believe that these
people are as smooth as satin and as ruthless as Satan himself. These are
people in high and low places who in appearance and demeanor are no
different than our next-door neighbors but who, driven by a perversion of
the soul and spirit, delight in evil.” Whether he notices the disjuncture
between this remark and his earlier statement that: “In my heart, soul and
spirit, there has been and still is, such a deep longing for The PROCESS,” I
can't say. Sadly, I doubt it.
http://skepticaltheurgist.blogharbor.com/blog/TheProcess/_archives/2006/4/17/1892467.html
Well, what can I
say?
This is my response to
the person who sent me Edward Mason's (Luke's) blog:
THANK YOU!!!!
No, I hadn't read this blog nor was I
even aware if this blog-sites existence. I deeply appreciate your research and
all the work you undertook to send it to me as a "word file"! What he says, and
I can't recall his name at the moment, is absolutely true and I must admit that
he is not one of those I mentioned to you as deceitful. He always struck me as
honest and we had quite a bit of correspondence, friendly correspondence, until
he mentioned to me, and I can't quite recall exactly what, something about the
"Holocaust" and the numerous "revisionist historians" on my website and that he
thought me to be a "loose cannon" (this he wrote to one of my co conspirators :)
involved with the "revival" of The Process. I was angry and disappointed, hurt,
because he had seemed so intelligent, too intelligent in my estimate to make
such an "ignorant" snotty comment.
Now I don't need for people to agree with me on this or any other matter,
but I do expect more from somebody whom I really liked and respected. And I
still do like him, except for his dismissal of my position regarding the
holocaust without at least respectful consideration of my research.
But thus is the influence of much propaganda and few facts... And I NEVER
would even think of DENYING that something of a holocaust was unleashed upon the
Jewish people in Germany.
I only want to "set the record straight" in regards to the amount of
victims, of the existence of "gas chambers" for extermination of human beings
and to the existence of an extermination plan by Hitler or any other high
official in the Nazi hierarchy...
I want this subject tackled with open minded research by historians and
politicians instead of making the subject taboo as far as honest research is
concerned. And I believe I told him this in just about the same language as I'm
telling you about it.
That he chose to make me into a
German war survivor with a psychological guilt complex which lead me into
"Holocaust DENIAL" is indeed low, but not unusual at all.
I have been attacked on the same grounds by many people with some kind of
agenda, be it of a political or philosophical or religious kind.... They all use
the same language making me from a "revisionist researcher" into a Holocaust
Denier and anti-Semite as well as a Racist Fascist and more.
...Now I don't know if my "Gnostic
Childhood" comes across as, I quote:
" He seemed narcissistic and
self-pitying (read the autobiographical “A Gnostic Childhood” on the site to
grasp my point) and paranoid."
I don't know and hope it is just something the HE makes out of it in order to
make me seem like a fanatical fool beset by psychological problems.
...Problems which I transferred into a "hatred" of The Process.
Far from it, what I meant by my statements, and hope it comes through in
my little article, is that not the Original Process people, or The Process, are
the bad apples with Satanic leanings and murderous "sacrifices" to Satan, but a
fringe remnant set loose by The Process schism... after 1974!
I think that this former Processean's articles regarding The Process are
simply put: written with extraordinary skill and beauty, catching all the
aspects of The Process which had such a strong impact on me when I read their
literature in 1973. So I definitely don't harbor a grudge against him as
regarding his correspondence with me, holocaust and all :)
No, there were others much more in line
with the words I used to describe what occurred and made me into an "enemy" of
them...
In one of his articles (not on this web site) he mentions a Father Malachi who
featured strongly in our correspondence....
And I believe that Malachi is now a Hypnotist and teaches classes on various
occult subjects. I forgot what name he uses now but it was something starting
with F.
Well, he had a web site a few years ago and probably still does. And he
also wrote some very Satanic, blood curdling, articles on a French web site
called Desolation.
I don't know if it is still there...
...Well, this fellow former Processean who was working with me, wrote an e-mail
to this web site address which was listed there and it was forwarded
automatically to this Hypnotist. We couldn't believe it, but true enough, this
guy writing on the Desolation site also used the name "Father Malachai" for his
articles...
...Now this Hypnotist had a picture of himself on his web site and comparing it
to former Processean, Father Malachai's picture on my web site, it bore a very
strong resemblance.
When I brought this up in communication with some of these former
Processeans, they emphatically denied it. So I wrote them that I would put both
pictures up, together on my web site, for just one day, trying to be nice....
And they all went about crazy!
...But I did this anyways and they again, against all almost foolproof evidence,
went into complete and unified denial accusing us of being paranoid and
whatever...(same old, same old)
I see on the blog site which you sent me the name of Donna listed, on the right
side.... She was one of them... She told me that she was married with children
and a school teacher and ridiculed "my suspicious behavior" in regards to our
communications with each other.
Oh, believe me, there was a lot going on between us all, accusations and
denials abound....
Have you read Maury Terry's book "The Ultimate Evil"? If you haven't you should
definitely get a hold of it. It is fascinating and instructive reading, to say
the least.... And he too doesn't accuse The Process, but instead relates the
Evil he writes about, Berkowitz and others, to a splinter group of Processeans
and others.
Well, again, I must thank you for making
me aware of this little article and the other material. It's too bad that some
people have to be so unfair, even when there is no need for it...
And, Edward, wouldn't you too, if you
were born as a "German", want to find out the TRUTH
about something so terrible as the "holocaust" regardless what "established"
Historians tell you? Especially when "Revisionist Historians", even if they are
"amateurs", are jailed just for voicing their opinion and bringing up questions?
...Like Ernst Zundel, Germar Rudolf, Prof. Faurisson and so many others, even
the renown historical author of many, many books, David Irving? Do you, Edward,
think that this need to find the TRUTH is somehow "psychopathic" and
"narcissistic", and uniquely a pathological, German need, sick and disgusting to
an "advanced" soul like you?
... If you do, than I must feel sorry for you!
Also, Edward, please do read these blogs
about The Process and find out that my suspicions are not all that "paranoid"
and unique:
REGARDING "THE PROCESS..."
BLOGS CONCERNING THE PROCESS
FROM: RIGOROUS INTUITION
This letter was edited for this web
site
by Holger on 10-22-06
Letter From Karl Regarding
"The Process", My Web Site,
The Ukrainian Holocaust (1930-1932) and More....
November 22, 2006
Hi there,
As it is...
I have just recently been reading many of the articles on your website (the
gnostic liberation front) and I have found that they are a wellspring of the
most interesting and neglected information that is out there...the more I read,
the more I realized how much I have in common with you (and whoever else work on
the site?). I mean everything that is presented on here is in some respects
areas of interest and great personal regard to me! I love it!
Then I noticed the great 'process church' symbol of which I have always
admired and loved (as a symbol first and later as I learned of their
'philosophy' the personal connection there as well!) and I clicked on the link
and read what you had written...it blew me away! It could have been written by
myself (only I was born in the late seventies so I was a thirty year 'Johnnie
come-lately' to the scene). But anyway, I did the same exact thing you did...I
went and tried to find any remnant at all of the Process Church...as I really
wanted to start up a chapter or something of the sort; a coffee shop, a little
place of refuge, a place to hold meetings, etc., etc.,? I hunted and tried to
find the magazines (to no avail...only procuring a poor photocopied version of a
couple of them) as well as any books (I read the Family by Ed Sander and got the
copy that still had the references to the Process in it...but that wasn't
enough...then I read Maury Terry's book...and I just couldn't quite believe his
claims...although I have begun to start seeing things exactly as you said...that
there may be some truth to what Maury Terry is saying in there...I mean there
are just some startling coincidences...like Berkowitz meeting with 'The Wizard'
[a name that was often used by none other than Charles Manson [the
Manson/Process connection IS there to some extent...could it be Bruce Davis??]
and then talking about Westchester County New York? This was a known place where
Robert DeGrimston was living at the time [I believe at a place called Chi
Mountain? I tried to look for THAT place too, but all to no avail at all!]...and
many other startling things which begin to open up to what may be an honest to
goodness (no pun intended!) truth that Maury Terry's book holds within it?) and
I eventually got the book on the Process which you referenced; called Satan's
Power...a fascinating read and a very interesting look inside the floundering,
last remnants of the Process Church. Yet still I wanted to get closer and
eventually I contacted someone, it may even have been you? And I joined a
web-newsgroup dedicated to the Process Church, but really heard nothing of any
real value come from there...then just as you describe, I began to get
disillusioned...for I was truly in love with the idea of the Process Church (I
even became an internet-minister in hopes of joining some remaining remnant of
an order of the defunct church!). being an artist myself and very inclined and
interested in all things which are pleasing to the eye...I absolutely and
completely LOVED their aesthetics! I so wish that there was some kind of Process
like Church that exists today which follows the same type of Gnostic teachings
as well as what I always thought was probably some of the VERY best parts of
Dianetics or Scientology...I honestly thought they had pretty much distilled the
very best parts of the psycho-analytical areas of Scientology and those of
Gnostic Christianity and mixed it all with a very sleek and powerful, well
organized and aesthetically pleasing outer-coverings ...I mean its amazing,
truly a work of genius!...anyway, I wanted to ask you if you know anything more
about the Process book which is purportedly to come out by Feral House? If you
know anything about that please let me know...I would really love to see
that...also, if you know of anything at all that is close or even mirrors what
the Process was trying to accomplish at it's peak? I would love to hear of
anything you may have uncovered, as you have definitely looked further into them
they I ever could. If you could answer me those two things, it would be a real
treat.
Also I wanted to express to you my admiration for printing all of the
'Holocaust Revisionist' material...I wanted to defend you on this, when I read
the piece written by Edward Mason (Luke), not that my defense of you would be of
any great importance to you...but I thought you would like to know that I
understand and respect what you have done. On the one hand; I can't believe that
people are SO quick to dismiss it especially on a site which is SO explicitly
about gnosis? I mean isn't that the whole point? To get to the truth? And I
would think with a subject as 'sacred' and which people must walk tippy-toe
around, it would be ripe with the most flagrant amount of 'lies' and
'distortions of the truth' (it's like the 9-11 conspiracies? I actually have a
friend who refuses to even look at anything that is even remotely labeled 9/11
conspiracy theory!...to me, that is such a tell tale sign that the subject MUST
be looked at closer and more accurately! But then I have always been
intrinsically a gnostic and so I feel it is a sort of 'fibre of my being' in a
way...not so for many other people, unfortunately...in fact i was the one who
wrote to you asking about the source of the quotes at the top of your page, as I
wanted to use them in response to my friend who had the typical knee-jerk
reaction to me imploring that he watch the film 'loose change'...so thank you
for that, not that it seems to have done him any good, unfortunately!) I mean
you can't even look into an area of the Holocaust without a person having the
immediate and pitela-reflex like reaction that you are an 'anti-semite' a 'nazi'...a
'fascist' etc., etc., so on that other hand I can see why the area is so
problematic for people...but I wanted to say to you...that it isn't to me...and
I admire and respect what you have done here...it is truly an amazing site and I
find the 'holocaust revisionist' area just as interesting as all the other
parts...to me it is just as important to question and look into that, as it is
anything else...in my mind once there is something you 'believe' should NEVER be
questioned? That's a damn good place to start the questioning!
Another thing, you expressed that you were German and that it was only
natural for you to want to explore that particular area which has maligned the
German people for so long (and in fact you can still see that in the young
Germans of today...I had a German girlfriend and she was almost, I would say,
terrified of even hinting or possibly hinting at even a close approximation of
even the vicinity of Nazism...I mean it was almost painful to watch her be so
careful...so painfully uneasy!) and I wanted to say to you...I think you should
have an area of the site dedicated to purported Ukrainian Nazis (I am of
Ukrainian descent, and so I have a similar reaction) and the many Ukrainians who
had their entire lives destroyed by over-zealous 'nazi-hunters' and the like. In
fact I have an article from Look Magazine from the 1970s that talks about these
Ukrainian fellows who were literally rounded up and taken away to Israel without
due process. Furthermore they claimed they were being actually being turned in
by the old communists in Russia; because they were part of vast anti-communist
group (and there were many such anti-communists groups in the Ukraine)...and
that rings home to me, as I had a great-uncle who was a part of a Ukrainian
group that was fiercely anti-communist and in fact the communists ended up
burning him and his family in their house (the rest of the family were sent to a
gulag)...in fact there is a statue of him in the little town of Tyrnopyl to this
day, as a hero...but I also had another Uncle who was a mayor of a town in the
Ukraine and he ended up fleeing at the end of WWII, and lived the rest of his
life in utter and complete fear of 'Jews' coming to get him...and I always
thought that was more than a little intriguing? But, anyway I seem to have
wandered from my main point...my point was that do you think you could put up
some pages perhaps about John Demaniuk (I'm sure you are familiar with him?) and
other Ukrainians who were purged from America, many without any due process of
the law? In fact I may be able to supply some information in this regard...so if
you would like me to do an essay or something, I would be most honored to write
one and have you put it up here on your amazing little (ur...HUGE) website?
Also, I am interested in a number of areas of the reported Ukrainian/Nazi
connection...I even have a part of a book (published in Canada) which actually
denies that a Ukrainian Holocaust happened??? Yeah, they had no problem with
that book at all...but I had relatives who lived through that...so believe me
there was a Ukrainian Holocaust whereby Stalin starved and killed possible 9-12
millions Ukrainians...yet, still THAT holocaust you don't hear too much about
(except a book that refutes it, of course!) and the Ukrainian people did NOT use
the fact that they were slaughtered to subjugate, torture and principally do the
same thing to peoples in a land that THEY eventually took over (thanks to the
British Imperialists and the American Zionist lobbys) and are still to this day,
chip...chip...chipping away at...anyway, I thought you might be interested in my
ideas and subjects? Let me know what you think?
Thank you for taking the time to read my e-mail...I look forward to your
response..
...so be it~
~Karl
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So What's the
fuzz? Why the venom and condemnation????
What is the
Gnostic Liberation Front?
We are dedicated to the born Gnostics, whom we call: "Gnostic Personalities,"
as in Gnostic TYPE of Personality, or simply "Idealists" and "Heretic
Outsiders".
We are not a "religious" organization, nor fascist, anti-semitic
"pseudo-Gnostics," as some uninformed individuals have called us on the
internet.
We do not ever claim to teach or promulgate a specific form of
religious Gnosticism or Political Ideology but consider ourselves
Gnostic Personalities on the path of awareness.
Our awareness of
Gnosticism is NOT derived from Eric Voegelin's perception of Gnosticism of
which we have been accused. We have never studied Voegelin's writings, nor do we agree with Voegelin's
idea that Gnosticism is the source of most of the evil on this planet,
especially as manifested in the origins of Communism, National Socialism
and Fascism.
To us, these movements were needed at the time and point in history of
their appearance and significance and, indeed, did serve as an attempt to
bring about a drastic step forward in mankind's evolution. Whether these
however futile attempts
were based on evil ideologies conceived of by evil Gnostics, and thus purely negative in outcome
as claimed by "democratic" propaganda, is not only debatable, but
relative to our level of historical honesty, knowledge and awareness.
Our basic philosophy is, that indeed, the originators of all "utopian"
political movements were and still are Gnostic type personalities. These
are reformers and revolutionaries who sometimes
were able to bring about change for better or worse from an inner need to
find solutions to the evils and injustices of this world. -People who had the drive,
insight and self-sacrificial mentality to "swim against the stream" no
matter what.
We actually find Voegelin to be an intolerable fool, if nothing else, for
his claim that Gnostics were the originators of most of the evil on this
planet. We believe the complete opposite, that true Gnostics were the
originators of all advances mankind has made throughout history!
Where we are in agreement with him though is, when he points out that
there is an obvious relationship between political movements like
Communism, National Socialism, Fascism and Gnosticism based on their
philosophical agreement that mankind, in order to create a more just and
peaceful society, must evolve by quantum leaps or face extinction through
self-destruction.
Above all though, it is the Gnostic Personality of the elite leadership
of these political movements which has brought us to this point of
perception.
Gnosticism, simply put, is a rebellion against an imperfect creator god
or spiritual entities, who created this world as a reflection of the true
God's spiritual idea and who failed miserably by making him into a
material being containing only a tiny spark of the True God's essence. We
see this original "evil" as a symbolical expression of a deeper truth.
Whether this "deeper truth" relates to homo sapiens as a product
of alien creation through genetic manipulation of our distant ancestors,
be they apes or pre-humanoids, we can only speculate, especially since
the basic, non-sectarian Gnostic creation myth leaves the gate wide open
to such "crazy" possibilities. And that is exactly what one hate-filled
web site on the internet called us just for putting this possibility into
a speculative framework. But we were in good company because they also had
David Icke and other well known personalities listed in the same category
as "loons".
So the attacks are coming in from all directions. Some are based on
ignorance and not going through our web site beyond the "cursory" level
and some others are based on a "spiritual" kind of sectarian fanaticism or
fundamentalist dogmatism of the accuser.
What is difficult to understand though is, that so called Gnostics would
call us derogatory names and accuse us of "giving Gnosticism a
bad name". We have never attacked any web site, Gnostic or otherwise, yet
we are attacked and maligned just because the author simply is to ignorant
to understand our perspective. What need could one have to publish this
kind of cheap shot? Of course it is quite obvious that these attackers are
never real Gnostic personalities but just "Religion Peddlers" who find in
Gnosticism an "untapped" source to start a cult or Gnostic "Church".
Seeing themselves as "authorities" on Gnosticism in the form of
Gnostic "gurus", they seem to feel the need to attack those who threaten
their self-proclaimed authority.
As to the accusation
that we are Nazis, Fascists, Communists, Anti-Semites and Racist Gnostics:
Yes, yes, yes, we are all of that and so much more!
Of course we mean this
in a Gnostic sense as we can relate to all of those philosophies and
ideologies. But we also know that our interest in these idealistic
ideologies is not based on our desire to propagate their ideas, but to
study them and learn from their mistakes. Is it not that our Gnostic brothers inspired
and lead them to the bitter end? Therefore, we should not ever abandon them based
on "democratic" propaganda and media lies. Shouldn't we know by now that "Democracy", as
presented and propagated to us by the establishment, is nothing but a sham
to fool the masses into believing that they indeed have an impact on the
political, social and economic decisions of their government?
Let us understand here and now, that we are
ruled, no matter where we live, by a "plutocratic" elite of the rich for
the rich and their sycophants in politics, the military, law enforcement,
economics, justice, religion, media and education and that we are kept in a
constant state of fear from uncertainty and whipped-up news reports in
order to never find the inner peace to become truly aware of our dubious
situation as slaves to the financial elite of this world.
Our involvement
with politics, conspiracies and social justice as Gnostic Personalities
must not only lead us to become aware of our situation, but to also become
active participants in the dissemination of, what we perceive as, the
truth. Even more though, we must find a solution, a better way for our and
mankind's liberation.
Thus our interest and study of all the old "isms"
which, at their time, promised hope but are no longer relevant to our
present dilemma is reflected in the information found on our web site. Why
then are we so obsessed with Zionism, Israel, Revisionism
and a New World Order conspiracy? Because we have come to the conclusion
that the dilemma of the 20th and 21st Century is simply expressed Zionism
and Jewish Tribalism!
This awareness, without malice, is the motivation for
much of our research and struggle. If that is "anti-Semitism", so be it.
But it is really not true since the true "Semites" are also Arabs and
Palestinians and most of the Zionists and Israelis are "Ashkanazi" Jews,
-Khazars, a Mongolian tribe originating from a region of the Caucasus mountains.
Never
ever is it our
intend to spread hatred towards people of other races or religious beliefs,
because we ALL are victims of the same oppressors. But we will speak freely,
without the restraint of "politically correct" hypocrisy about the self-serving and destructive manipulations of minority organizations and pressure
groups within the USA and all western nations. We believe strongly that
mass-immigration into these countries by third world people is a planned
act of social engineering forced upon us by the New World Order cabal in
order to subvert our national unity and thus divide us into constantly
quarrelling and bickering minorities and races with no unified power to
resist their One World Zionist agenda.
If you, dear
reader, find hatred in these pages, you should perhaps question your own
intellectual maturity, knowledge of historical facts and state of awareness. We feel that "setting the record
straight" has nothing to do with hatred but everything with a preliminary
step which, we hope, might lead to Liberation from the choke-hold of the
New World Order cabal.
“The new man is still
evolving. Indeed, he is not yet visible to everyone, for he does not come
from the noisy centre which constantly attracts the attention of the
crowd, but from the quiet periphery. Every new force that is designed to
topple an age which has run its course comes from the periphery of that
age with all its dominant values and pseudo-values. It is in the moments
of great crisis in the emergence of the new that the ‘outsiders’ take on
their special function of forming the nucleus of a new centre around which
the coming world will henceforth order itself.”
- E. Gunther Grundel,
The Mission of the Young Generation [1933].
WHAT IS A GNOSTIC?
The soaring eagle -- Symbol of The
Gnostic -- Men and women Above Time -- Loners, Outsiders, Dreamers, Idealists,
Revolutionaries and Spiritual Pioneers -- Independent Thinkers, Inventors and
Reformers -- Leaders, Conspirators, Always Politically Incorrect by the very
nature of their Independence and Awareness -- Avatars and Messiahs --
Troublemakers to the Establishment and Liberators to Others -- Single-minded in
the Pursuit of Their Purpose in This Life -- Maligned, Imprisoned, Tortured and
often Killed -- Some Lost in Their Dreams and Others Succeeding in Their Mission
-- Often Misunderstood or Falsely Accused by the Masses and their "Authorities"
-- Some Straying Into the Left Handed Path becoming Jaded and Disillusioned and
Eventually Destroying Themselves and Their Followers Recklessly -- Others After
Many Defeats and Ridicule Surrendering Their Calling to the Powers and
Principalities of This Material World -- But ALL ARE GNOSTICS, CHILDREN OF A
DIFFERENT GOD!
Here is a gallery of mostly modern day Gnostics.
Most of them were never associated with any form of religious Gnosticism, but
were, in our opinion, born Gnostics nevertheless. All were people with an
enormous, almost super-human, inner drive to correct the injustices and failures
of the established order. Some were successful, others failed miserably. Some
heroically overcoming the limitations and restrictions of their birth and others
succumbing to the same limited circumstances to become egotistical exploiters of
their fellow man. Some choosing to uplift mankind and others choosing the path
of evil to attain power and prestige. Some builders and others destroyers...-But
all born Gnostics, idealists, visionaries and heretics...driven by an inner
fire, a divine spark, to take on the whole world if needed without concern for
their personal safety and prosperity....Walking fearlessly their vision's path
where even "angels fear to tread"... innocently taunting the powers and
principalities of this world...Like dancing children on the edge of an ever
present abyss....
And it is these Gnostics, these heretics and idealists who have
changed the course of mankind's physical, mental and spiritual evolution.
Whether considered by the rest of mankind as "good" or "evil"
matters nothing to the overall picture as viewed beyond the constrains of three
dimensional time and space perception. They did the only thing they really could
do...which is to follow the guidance of their inner spark...projecting their
vision upon the material universe. If they exploited people and even unleashed
the negative, destructive force of war and death upon this dense planet, so be
it, as they will have to pay the price on a cosmic scale. When Jesus says in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas: "I
have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes." He
expresses the Gnostic spirit clearly.
This leads us to say that Gnostics are
like a
race apart, above and beyond all other human races, who like silent watchers, in
tune with another dimension, perceive, interpret and relate in their own unique
way drastic solutions to the dilemma of human existence. And this is the
point where we Gnostics must also face our own vulnerability....And we are truly
vulnerable to exploitation from many sources, be they spiritual, mental or
physical. We can fall prey to ideas, concepts and beliefs which would not only
physically endanger us but also spiritually. Being idealists, we can easily be
manipulated by political or religious parties or cults...by ideologies promising
"heaven on earth" and spiritual beliefs which promise instant salvation. Do you
think that Communists, Nazis, Zionists and religious cultists are evil, and that's why
they became involved with those idealistic movements? No, the true believers,
the idealists found within these groups, parties, movements and cults, were born
Gnostics driven by their inner fire to create a new and better world. Gnostics
who saw in either political or spiritual movements the solution to the worlds
problems. And, of course, they were the ones who paid the ultimate price. They
were the ones who at the Nuremberg trials and at Stalinist show-trials were
condemned to death....or who invested their whole life's resources into a
charismatic cult leader's bank account...who lost everything, reputation, health
and even their sanity through the cunning manipulations of evil humans and spiritual
beings. The Gnostic Liberation Front is not some "revolutionary" movement to
advance Gnostic concepts but is really meant to Liberate Gnostics from
themselves and show them how futile all "revolutionary" concepts and "isms"
really are on this evil planet.
No matter
how idealistic and noble the cause is, when set into practice, as we have seen
in National Socialism and Communism as well as in Fascism and extreme
Capitalism, it becomes just another oppressive political system of human
exploitation and manipulation. There is just NO solution to the human dilemma
upon this earth. Except that we clearly understand that evil rules this world!
When we truly comprehend this and make our peace with this understanding, we
will be able to find our true calling and destiny. When we clearly understand
that this earth is not our destiny nor our ultimate home but just a temporary
stop on a long journey. We are "passers-by" here, visitors....And we should not
become entranced with what goes on here beyond the things that we have to "give
to Caesar" in order to survive.
We are here
to learn and observe and learn more...We are here to grasp what life is and to
honor and respect ALL life, not just our own, or our families' and
friends'....And that life is the expression of God's love eternally. We are here
to learn that our liberation from the injustices of this evil planet can not, and
does not, come from changing things through "isms", religions, dogmas and
manifestos or revolutions, but through life lived nobly, righteously,
compassionately and peacefully with awareness of a spiritual dimension as
revealed by Jesus the Christ and other spiritual teachers. The four Gospels of the New Testament as well as
the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas should be all that is needed for us to find our
inner Liberation. Why Jesus? Because it should be clear to anyone with some
degree of awareness and insight that Jesus without the dogma of the so called
"Christian" religion and the contradiction of the hateful god of the Jewish
Torah named Yahweh, is truly The Christ. And THAT is our heresy!
We Gnostics
believe that Jesus was not the son of the wrathful tribal god Yahweh and never
could be. When Jesus the Christ refers to his Father in Heaven, he refers to the
God of Love, the God of Spirit, who is far beyond the realm of this universe and
has NOTHING whatsoever in common with the evil entity named Yahweh! Jesus is
indeed "The Way and The Truth and The Life", because He overcame this world
through Love and not hatred. He was crucified by the establishment, the order of
this world, priest-craft and Pharisee-ism, ritualism and magic. We are
Christians, true Christians first and foremost and Gnostics only because we are
idealists, born idealists and because we have learned from the words and deeds
of Jesus the Christ that the true God, who is our Father and the Father of whom
Jesus speaks as His Father, is NOT and CAN NOT BE the tribal entity Yahweh of
the Old Testament, the Torah! If this knowledge, this awareness makes us
Christian Gnostics, then so be it! We do not ever believe that the Cabbala or
"secret teachings" with passwords and occult beliefs and rituals are of any
value to anyone's liberation but are just another form of bondage to "the god of
this world" who is indeed Yahweh-Sataniel-Moloch-Wotan...
Often
Gnostics are seen as members of "the Brotherhood of the Snake", or as
Theosophists, sophists, Satanists or Masons and Illuminati. And some Gnostics are
indeed members of these groups and Occult brotherhoods...But THAT is only
because any belief and any cult aside from "established" or better
"Establishment" religions falls into the category of Gnosticism. There are
Christian Gnostics and non-Christian Gnostics....But even Christian Gnostics
vary in their beliefs just like the Protestant sects in established "orthodox"
Christianity. We have a choice to choose which path we take. We can, as
Gnostics, become entangled in this world either through political or occult
pursuits to either "save the world," or to find power and wealth....Or we can
overcome this world and its "powers and principalities" as outcasts and heretics
to the established order through Jesus the Christ.
Like Jesus, We Are Eternal
Outcasts and Heretics!
You can not convert to Gnosticism, nor can
you pretend to be a Gnostic...
You either
are a Gnostic, or you are not.
Those of you who are Gnostics and don't know it will have
always felt as outsiders and aliens in this world. You know in the depth of your
being that you really don't
belong. You are alone in this world and you very well know it. Perhaps you are
somewhat adjusted and you often pretend to yourself and the world around
you that everything is just fine, but in your heart and soul you know that you
are homesick for another world and for others like you. You live in exile as an
alien amongst strangers.
You might be
involved in politics of some alternative nature, like Communism,
Socialism, National Socialism, Populism, Anarchism, Libertarianism, or Fascism
or you might search for your "home" in various metaphysical, spiritual or occult
speculations and philosophies.
But deep down you are
never satisfied. The quest is never ending for you. You manage your
life the best you can and to the world you seem intelligent, sensitive and
open-minded and you are perhaps even admired for your wide range of knowledge
and the charismatic ability to fascinate and inspire others.
But even though, everybody who knows you or comes
in contact with you senses that you are 'different'.
Still, this alone doesn't
necessarily make you a Gnostic. You are a Gnostic when you constantly feel a
deep, gut-level pull to change the world. This 'pull', this inner force, has
been with you as long as you can remember.
You experience,
through your extreme sensitivity, the darkness and evil of this world in all
it's variations, with intense personal pain, and you feel from the depth of your
being, that you must do something about it.
The injustices and ugliness of
human bondage are eating at your very soul. The suffering of man and beast are
screaming into your face with every beggar, lost soul or abused animal you see.
Even cattle in
the field brings sorrow to your heart as you immediately envision the horrors of
the slaughter-house waiting for them.
You dream of a better, kinder
world and you feel forced to take a stand. You feel that, even before you came
into this realm, you made a commitment to work to the best of your abilities,
for the liberation of yourself and the liberation of this dense planet with all
its suffering creatures, man and animal alike.
For this task
you feel that there seems to be a special grace given to you. Often, you are
able to go 'where angels fear to tread' and come out unscathed.
An indescribable force seems
to pull you and guide you on your path. But then, just when you think that you
have reached a tangible point of "success," all hell seems to break-loose.
People start turning against you and difficulties which you never anticipated
arise out of nowhere.
You realize
suddenly how alone you are and that other people do not understand one bit and
care even less about ideals for which you would give your life in order to
better their lives.
It's not so much for the
benefits of others that you are involved into whatever drives your being, but
for the need to fulfill your undefined 'mission,' no matter what the obstacles
are. You are a born revolutionary on a political level, and a heretic to the
most cherished religious and cultural beliefs of your society.
Whether
your name will be written in history books as a vilified enemy of the
establishment, or whether you are one of the unknown heroes of Gnosticism, you
are one of the very few, of the born and true Gnostics.
For better or worse, you will
have a life full of indescribable joy and insufferable pain. Therefore,
despite it all, never forget that Jesus, Buddha, Meher Baba, Bhagwan Shree
Rajneesh, Martin Luther King and so many other great souls known to mankind were
part of us Gnostics. And so were also Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess, Alfred
Rosenberg, Francis Parker Yockey, Jack London, Ezra Pound, Karl Marx, Friedrich
Engels, Richard Wagner, Richard Strauss, Franz Liszt, Mary Baker Eddy, as well
as countless others; Philosophers, Writers, Politicians, Artists, Teachers,
Composers and dreamers from all walks of life. Hated or praised, but Gnostics
all. They might have known nothing or very little about Gnosticism and would
have never consider themselves 'Gnostics,' but are Gnostics nevertheless.
All were
driven by the same spiritual force attempting to forge an inner utopia upon this
dense planet against all the odds.
But, that doesn't matter much
to us. We know, in the depths of our souls, that we are part of this 'family'
and that we understand each other all too well. We are sympathetic to all
Gnostics, even those considered 'evil' in the eyes of of the world. Not because
we condone so called 'evil,' or that we delight in the suffering of others, but
because we understand the core of their motivations and intentions.
Besides, we
also know that the real truth is often skillfully distorted by the 'powers and
principalities' of this earth.
As you may may have learned
through your own experiences, the majority of people care little about the quest
for truth which motivates and drives our very existence. They are happy and
content to be left alone and to escape into the two dimensional world of
television and pop music. Their lives
center around sex, money and family. Not knowing or even caring much that even
these simple needs are important tools for government manipulation and mass-
mind-control projects.
We as Gnostics
understand this quite clearly, because we believe that mankind was created by the demiurge,
the false god Yahweh, whom one could also envision as a genetic engineer from an alien
race, as slaves with slave mentalities in order to be of service to
our alien creators.
Who these creators were we can only speculate. Reading
Zacheria Sitchin's research into the ancient Sumerian texts, we can only
wholeheartedly agree with his conclusions, which are basically that man, as we
know him, is the product, -the outcome, of a genetic experiment by alien beings
who needed slaves for their gold-mines in Africa and who therefore used DNA
manipulation of already existing semi-humans to create what we now know as
homo-sapiens.
What amazes us most about this theory is, that the Gnostic texts and scriptures
seem to, in a more mythical-symbolic way, tell the same story. Another book which makes
a very impressive point in this direction, is William Bramley's The Gods of
Eden.
We don't know
how or why we were born as Gnostics, but it seems that somehow we must have
'slipped through a cosmic crack.'
But here we are and always will be.
As long as there is a universe, there will also be true rebels and revolutionaries
on a cosmic scale. And whatever names we give ourselves or by whatever
names we are called, we are Gnostics, the villains, rebels, saviors, saints and
'trouble makers' of this world.
The Gnostic is in a constant
state of outrage at the injustices of this world. It is as if he wants to
raise his fist at the infinite sky and scream at this unjust god who put him here against his will.
He is an outcast by definition and intent. He
scornfully turns his back upon all of the "establishments" of
this world, because to him, they are the symbols of high treason to the God of Light and Love. It is this worldly power that he rejects with all the anger and
hatred which he has built up since he opened his eyes on this evil planet to face
yet another round of infinite betrayal and pain.
Nothing
in this world is impossible or too absurd to be true. What we face here, on this
planet, is exceedingly complex and often very confusing.
We are
frequently dealing with emotionally charged issues, hyped-up to serve the special interests of peoples and organizations, who will often fight those who dare to
challenge their "authority" to the point of physical violence and
murder. Certain influential pressure
groups of racist, tribalist people have managed to attain an almost untouchable status and their
clever manipulations of facts and fiction remain unchallenged because they have
managed to buy or bully those who know the Truth into silence and submission.
This dualistic world makes
it necessary to look at everything which presents itself to us, often as subtle propaganda, with critical and weary eyes.
We must look at the 'other side' of every viewpoint and opinion. Indeed, we must
consciously search to find the truth or at least attempt to come as close to
the truth as humanly possible. This means, above all, to keep an open mind.
If our mind is closed by
presumptions and public hype, we become victims of those forces which would want
us to swallow their insidious lies, deceptions and half-truths without
questions. Every story told has two sides to
it. And it is our opinion that we would need to look at both sides in
order to form an opinion and get closer to the truth.
To us, This
Earth Is Evil.
However it manifests here, whether in people and their actions, or the
injustices of existence, or in the brutality of our oppressors, the source of
this evil derives from a flawed scheme of cosmic proportions.
Counterpoint!
GNOSIS
What you just read is to
be understood only and exclusively as the perception of Gnosticism and life on
earth, in the material realm, by a born Gnostic. It is to be seen as simply an
expression of the Gnostic mentality. It is most likely the psychological make-up
of every Gnostic...But it is NOT Gnosis! Like everybody on earth he must
gradually evolve and find his own Liberation. Thus he is driven to find answers
to the dilemma of human existence on a grand scale, and answers to his own
existence on a smaller scale. This then is his drive to find Gnosis, Wisdom. And
thus it is this, for the Gnostic, monumental and often heroic struggle which
either leads him into the realm of fatal error or sublime Gnosis. Reading the
old, archaic Gnostic gospel translations will be useless and searching in the
"Occult" will only bring disaster...as it seems to reflect and magnify the
treacherous aspects of the fourth dimension.
Therefore, I would like
to point the serious seeker to Christian Science. Of course I don't mean the
disgusting Church in Boston which, in my opinion, has not only subverted the
sublime Truth as taught by Mrs. Eddy, but has also hindered and actively stifled
the teachings of this American sage. I mean to study Christian Science
independently...through a book on this web site, written by Arthur Corey, a
former Practitioner of Christian Science.
Here is what I have
written elsewhere about him and Mary Baker Eddy:
Mary Baker Eddy's
Discovery Of Christian Science Was A World Shaking Event! Even Though The
Supreme Truth Of Her Teaching Was Subverted From Within The Boston Church By
Uninspired Bureaucrats...Power-Hungry, Pharisaical Conspirators...Her
Understanding Of Malignant Animal Magnetism And Her Teaching Of How To Defend
Against It, Are Of Invaluable Importance In These Times Of New World Order
Assault On Mankind...That Is The Reason For The Subversion From Within Of
Christian Science...And The Reason Why The New World Order Loves The "New
Thought" Movement Which Derived From Christian Science In Rebellion To Her
Unshakable Belief In Malicious Animal Magnetism...Arthur Corey The Author Of
"Christian Science Class Instruction", Was One Of Many Genuine Christian
Scientist Who Defied The Boston Church In Order To Give To The World A Clearer
Understanding Of Christian Science...Here Is His Book...Now See For Your Self
The Sublime Gnosis As Revealed By Mary Baker Eddy!!!
Here is the Book
"Christian Science Class Instruction" By Arthur Corey on our web-site!
Read this book
with an open mind and you will find the answer to your quest!
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The Marcionite Heresy
An Excerpt From
The Fascinating Article On Our Web Site
Gnostic Origins of Alfred
Rosenberg's Thought by JAMES B. WHISKER
We must return to the 2nd century A.D., to Marcion
of Sinope in Pontus, to see the development of the whole body of literature
surrounding the Grail. The greater portion of what stood in contradistinction to
both Western Catholicism and the later Orthodox schism from that Church, can be
seen at least germinal in Marcion. He, like many, had struggled with the great
problem of evil. The Church had not as of that time decided its own explanation
of evil in the world. The question was far from settled when Marcion was
writing.
The Marcionites believed that evil was a truly real
force, not merely the privation of some good. One may, for simplification,
regard that evil power as the Devil, Satan, or the Lord of the Flies. He is a
power to be reckoned with. The world was the source of sin and corruption, and
was to be avoided. It had been created just as the Old Testament had said, but
not by God. There was a lesser being, or beings, much like the classic Greek
"world artificers." Sometimes known as a Demiurge, that creator had a
spark of divinity, for he was a son of God, an emanation from the Most High. Man
naturally longs for his true home, but that is unknown to him. He is trapped in
a world of corruption and ruination: in matter, the material world, which is not
God's creation.
To Marcion, the Old Testament was lie because it was
the story of a false god, a deceiver: Jehovah. It and most, if not all, of its
various characters were a deceit, and must be rejected. The Jews he considered
to be the people of Jehovah, that is, a race dedicated to the false god. He
agreed with the Jews on one point: their messiah had not yet come. Jesus Christ
was not their redeemer; he had come to liberate men from the false religion of
Jehovah. In his anti-cosmic dualism, Marcion put the unknown God in opposition
to the inferior creator-god, Jehovah. The salvation of mankind meant, in a word,
liberation from Jehovah.
The contrast between the two worlds and their
respective gods is very great. Jehovah is presented by Marcion as a
warrior-avenger, interested in perpetuating a world of retribution. The gentle
Jesus is the agent of the unknown (alien) God, and he is merciful and filled
with love. One cannot know the unknown (alien) God directly, and though he may
have been suspected by men, he was not revealed to exist until Jesus came into
the world. Jehovah was at home in the material world because it was his mirror
image, made in his (not the alien-God's) image and likeness. The true God could
not exist in this world, for he is pure spirit and is in direct opposition to
the conflict and disorder which is inherent in matter.
The Marcionites rejected any and all things which
tied one to the material world, or which seemed to tie one there, or which
seemed to suggest physical redemption or conversion of material things. Thus
they rejected baptism, except as a manifestation of their disdain for the
material world. Holy Communion was a great contradiction, for it had as its
primary content the transfixion of material things into the realm of the spirit
and of the unknown God. All earthly pleasures were to be avoided as distractions
which tie one to the temporal world. Sexual contact was another more serious tie
to the visible world. Procreation of children meant that more sparks of the
spirit were to be entrapped in the world of tears and deceit.
Because he is pure goodness and mercy, the unknown
God adopted mankind, or at least that portion which was his own and to whom he
could come, and who would accept and love him. God gave us grace quite freely to
aid in our salvation, not because we as lowly beings could not merit it, but
because he loved us although he did not know us. This is the doctrine of
"pure grace," a quintessential part of Marcionite theology. That, in a
sense, is the whole of the religion. God so loved the world that, although
unknown to him, he chose to bring men to live with him so that he and men could
come to know one another in a world far removed from the corruption of the
present one.
Morality was not regarded as conformity to some law
of Nature; nature was physical, and thus corrupt. God was not in the world.
Natural laws were the embodiment of the demiurge, Satan, not the Unknown God.
One ought to avoid contact with nature in all its visible forms, for it leads
one away from the true God.
While it is faith, not knowledge, that leads us
toward God, we must have access to and know the special knowledge that much of
what passes as religion is false. We must know, in Marcion's schema, that the
Unknown God is God, and that the creator of the world is only an eon, an evil
emanation from God. Christ the Son of God came to bring us to know that which we
cannot know directly, in and of ourselves. That we are trapped in matter without
hope of redemption unless we know the correct faith is a matter of special, or
gnostic, revelation. That God invites us strangers into his home without any
knowledge of us, or we of him, is a canon of faith which can be known only
through this special knowledge.
Marcion dropped elements of the New Testament that
he did not like. What remained were expurgated portions of the Gospels (notably
Luke), some of Paul's letters, and bits of the Acts of the Apostles. It is
noteworthy that the Western church had not, as of this time, codified the New
Testament. Marcion was more restrictive than most of the priests of the time in
his choice of acceptable materials for the services. He rejected the Old
Testament entirely, although one deviation of the time, possibly not Marcionite,
devolved into snake worship, based on the Old Testament tale of the snake
tempting Eve. Presumably, the snake was a good symbol for it was set in
contradistinction to the ones Marcion had made evil characters. The snake was
believed to be bringing certain knowledge of Satan, the creator of Adam and Eve.
In censoring the New Testament, Marcion excised
those references made to an early childhood of Christ. Since Jesus was the
messenger of the Most High, the Unknown God, he could not have been immersed in
matter. Without having to materialize, Jesus had appeared to men to have a body
and then only at Capernaum. He came to save those who would reject Judaism and
Jehovah. What his precious blood purchased, in a metaphorical sense, was the
freedom from the false god, Jehovah. He offered a baptism which would reject the
world and all its material evils. One was to be "married" only to
Christ so that child-bearing was avoided and man could escape the material
world. While the material world would continue to exist, Christ had come to
destroy, as an idea, the world of Jehovah.
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A civilized question from Italy:
From: "Onofrio
Sperandeo" <onos........@cheapnet.it>
To: <Thomas1@gnosticliberationfront.com>
Subject: Home-page and others
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:19:19 +0100
In your home-page, you get
thats "Secrets Of The Federal Reserve And The London
Connection" By Eustace Mullins
if you click not on an image of the cover of this
book, but of the one of "State Secret" by Léon de Montaigne, count de
Poncins.
I thank you for your work.
I didn't understand why you call your site "Gnostic
Liberation Front", as gnostic are our enemies, who (like the ancient and
every times' gnostics) want to establish a world without own identities:
an One World Government instead of single states, an so on. I belong to
the same school of de Poncins, that's the catholic counter-revolutionary
one.
Best Regards,
Onofrio Sperandeo - Pisa
Response from Holger:
Dear Onofrio,
thank you for your kind letter. I
understand exactly what you mean by "Why choose Gnostic Liberation Front, as
they are our enemies"? There are indeed various reasons. I agree that as most
people understand Gnosticism, your statement is correct. But, not all Gnostics
and those who are considered "Gnostics" fall into that category. My point
being that yes, Gnosticism and Catholicism are "arch-enemies," but aside from
the Gnostic belief that the Old-Testament is a Jewish tribal account of their
concept of God and their relationship to God. Gnostics in general dispute that
Jesus Christ was referring to Yahweh as his Father in Heaven...but was
referring to the Gnostic vision of an all loving God who in his total goodness
could not possibly have created the evils which our planet earth and our
material existence is plagued with. So my point in choosing "Gnostic
Liberation Front" as title is to challenge the Jewish power and influence upon
Christianity and, of course, upon the affairs of this world. I feel that it
was a mistake of the early Church to have connected the New Testament with the
Old Testament of murder slaughter and brutality and a god who calls for this.
Otherwise I appreciate the Catholic Church and just wished that the Vatican
had not become corrupted by the adepts of Luciferian evil. Be that as it may,
I have also chosen to use Gnosticism in the sense of "Ur-Christian" or
"basic-Christian". Perhaps in the sense of
Alfred Rosenberg's interpretation
as found in his "Myth of the 20th Century". Also I should mention that
basically I mean to apply Gnosticism to a Neo-Gnostic political approach in
the sense of idealism. I see Gnostics, in our day, as nothing but born
idealists who want to "set things right" this would include the whole range of
idealistic political philosophies which attract idealistic people looking for
a change of the "established order" which today is, of course, the left and
right caught up in Illuminati-Freemason-Zionist manipulated movements. Since
they too are considered "Gnostic", I am attempting to fight fire with fire, so
to speak. We are approaching now a time of total New World Order rule and
people need to understand what is really going on. Perhaps I'm skirting
disaster in my approach, but I feel it is an acceptable way to reach those who
are the most vulnerable, by their inherent personality and character, to be
mislead by New World Order fronts. Thus I mean to literally liberate Gnostics
or Idealists from this danger. I hope this attempt by me to explain to you why
I chose Gnosticism as a vehicle to transmit the truth as I see it.
Sincerely yours,
Holger.
How Ungrateful Can You Possibly Be!
If YOU feel the
same way
please don't order any horoscopes!
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December 27, 2006 07:53 PM
That's an antisemitic, neo nazi site.
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Holger from Gnostic Liberation Front Responds:
posted December 31, 2006 11:20 AM
Hello, members and visitors to this forum!
I am the owner and webmaster of Gnostic Liberation Front and I
joined this forum specifically to respond to all the ugly and
ungrateful comments about my web site.
First of all, I worked my butt off, three 12 hour days without
interruption to do all the horoscopes and progressions coming
from and through this board. And all this for free!!! And then
to read all this nonsense that treats me like a racist
pariah...as thanks! My site is neither a Gnostic "religious"
site nor a "recruiting" source to anything. It is neither
connected to an organization nor to a political group, but is a
site dealing with "Gnostic Personality" or "Gnostic Persona". It
is a "Digest" like "Readers Digest" of material relevant to
people who have that "Gnostic Personality"....such as a burning
desire to feed their intellectual interests with material not
commonly found in the government controlled mainstream
media...Nothing more and nothing less.
And I shall say to those of you who so vehemently condemned my
site, that you are not only ignorant and close-minded, but have
actually never bothered to REALLY go through it and READ some of
the material there... This site is huge and it would take one
more than a year of concentrated effort to read the entire
material there...So to condemn it, off handedly, like you have
done speaks more of your intellectual poverty and hatred than of
me being a "racist" "nazi" or "anti-semite"...My whole
philosophy is aimed against any kind of tribalism where power
blocks of "religious" people want to control our government and
silence dissent. I am as much a "anti-christian" when it comes
to this kind of influence as I am an "anti-semite" or a
"racist"... I speak out freely through the material on my site,
but I do not ever preach or condone hatred. So, my dear Jewish
lady, your worry that your Jewish name would "give you away" is
of course utter nonsense. I have sent horoscopes all over the
world, from India to Pakistan to "even" Israel. As a matter of
fact, I love the jewish people as individuals, because I have
had, through the course of my 65 years here on this earth many,
many Jewish friends and always appreciated their keen
intellectual qualities and insight, as well as their
"rebelliousness" against government oppression. But I am
dismayed at how blind they have become to the human rights
abuses in Israel and against the Palestinian people... As a
Gnostic for more than fourty years, I see myself as an AWAKENER
to the evils, lies, hypocrisy, self-righteousness and the
virtual enslavement of the masses by political as well as
religious power blocks working toward an evil New World
Order...And that is All. And...as to not knowing what Gnosticism
really is, I would like to ask you, my dear lady, who so
self-righteously proclaimed that "we" don't know what it is: go
to the first page in the "vault" and do some serious reading!
Perhaps you might find out that it is really YOU who doesn't
know what Gnosticism and Gnosis (knowledge-wisdom) is! So just
keep on living in your Politically Correct goody, goody Aquarian
dream world, study your horoscopes with narcissistic diligence
and ignore what is REALLY going on in the world around you while
putting ugly labels on those of us who have read and studied and
who attempt to alert mankind to their imminent enslavement. It
is really alarming to me how an innocent posting to my web site
could cause such outburst of "indignance" and self-righteous
condemnation of a good deed. And how, with a few exceptions,
everybody else joins the chorus line... Has any of you ever
heard the old adage: "Don't judge a book by it's cover"? Well,
that's exactly what you people have done. And worse, you have
shown your true character by your ugly comments about a web site
which is willing to give you what would cost you somewhere else
on the internet well over $100... Have you any idea how much
time is involved to make these horoscopes and progression?
Certainly they are "computer generated" with the best soft ware
available, but the process is not entirely automatic. I have to
type in the data for each report with not only the general
information but the specifics of present location and in the
case of "friends and lovers" reports do it doubly, as well as
changing pre-sets of male-female or female-male. The entire
process, per order, takes at least 15 minutes. Now multiply this
into more than 150 orders which I received all at once through
the posting of my web site on this forum and you surely can see
that my doing ALL of these reports in more than 36 hours of
intense typing, waiting for the reports to process and attaching
them to e-mails, was indeed a labor of love... Yes, ladies, love
of people and willingness to help people to get insight into
themselves and their situations... There is no other real motive
for me to do this, as I have little illusion that most of the
people who order the reports will never really read my web site.
So be it. But then to read all the ugly, downright evil
comments, is more than I deserve for wanting to do a
service....In German there is a saying, "Dem geschenkten Gaul
kuckt man nicht ins Maul" --- which roughly translated means:
"One should not look into the mouth of a horse one is given as a
gift" (determining it's age).
And to the lady who was appalled and suspicious because of the
music when she opened my home page, this is not a nazi anthem
but the national anthem of Cuba... put there NOT because I'm in
love with communism, but because it is stirring and I liked it
as a theme music to a web site which is dedicated to AWAKEN! My
God, so much fault finding and so little appreciation for the
FREE horoscopes!!!
How sick can you get, "ladies"? How can you be so callous and
self-righteous reveling in your own ignorance for the whole
world to see! And you know, out of all those horoscopes done and
sent, I received only three e-mails of appreciation! Sad indeed,
but indicative of everything else said about my service on this
forum. |
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posted December 31, 2006 08:40 PM
Dear friends, thank you for all the kind words
written in regards to the reports. I appreciate that many of you
had the courage to defy the few who still want to denegrade my
web site and reports. What can I say in my defense? I was angry
when I wrote the posting, and perhaps showed it in the choice of
my words. But can you not understand the reason why?
To Natural 111:
I can only say that if you are so offended by my posting, feel
free to go into your back-yard and burn the "dang things".
And to Dulca Luna:
The article you refer to was not written by me but I do agree
with it's general outline. The writer is referring to Judaism as
a "talmudic" religion... If you know anything at all about the
"Talmud"--Babylonian or other, then please tell me what you
object to... otherwise I would suggest you should read up on it
on the internet and THEN offer your comments or criticism. As to
my position on it, I shall here again post an excerpt of what I
wrote previously:
..My whole philosophy is aimed against any kind of tribalism
where power blocks of "religious" people want to control our
government and silence dissent. I am as much a "anti-christian"
when it comes to this kind of influence as I am an "anti-semite"
or a "racist"... I speak out freely through the material on my
site, but I do not ever preach or condone hatred...
...And as to hiding "anti-semitism" behind "Gnosticism", please
do some research and find out that although Gnosticism had it's
beginnings before Christianity, the very foundation of
Gnosticism is based on rejection of the Jewish God Jehovah as an
imposter god. So it is not "anti-semitism" as many of those
ancient Gnostics were semitic, but condemnation of what was then
Pharisaic "talmudic" Judaism and which it still is to this very
day. The Gnostics called the god Jehovah the demiurge or
"pretender" god. The "Talmudic Laws" which Jews abide by is
based on a form of racism which makes Hitler's "Nuremberg Racial
Laws" look like a mild pretense or imitation of Judaism...
Of course you will be "outraged" by my claims, and that is
understandable, but I can only suggest for you to check out the
FACTS on the internet. Or if you only trust a Jewish source for
this information, please read the articles of Israel Shamir or
Azmon Gideon by typing in these names into "google". Also if you
dare, go to my "Book-Page" and you can read a book by a renown
Jewish professor and author from Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
Israel Shahak, who can explain to you much better than I what I
just stated...
And to your sarcastic comment about having to thank me for my
reports, I can only say that I mentioned "thank you letters" in
passing... And NO you don't have to send me a note and THEY ARE
FREE to anyone, whether you ever send me a Thank You note or
not. Of course, common courtesy makes people say "Thank you" for
a gift...But we live in an "uncommon" world and an "uncommon"
society...
And again, I would like to express my sincerest "Thank You"
to all of you who wrote in my defense here on this forum and in
private letters (All of which I answered). |
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Duality
Knowflake
Posts: 242
From:
Registered: Jul 2003 |
posted
December 31, 2006 08:52 PM
Thomas, you are a disgusting liar, a fascist and a racist.
Your site is littered with anti jewish propaganda, anti zionist
propaganda and lies to the point of actually calling to the annihilation
of Israel, with holocaust denial and whatnot.
People, if you want to know for yourselves, just scroll and read and
see who some of his "guest star writers" and the subjects of some of the
"articles" are - Ernst Zundel
is one.
Sick, sick sick.....
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Natural111
Knowflake
Posts: 238
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 2006 |
posted
December 31, 2006 09:06 PM
Dude, you're nuts....
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posted December 31, 2006 09:17 PM
Duality
May I ask you why my support for Ernst Zundel is "sick, sick,
sick"? This man has been through hell with three years already
in jail and then brought before a kangaroo court in Germany for
NOT denying the "holocaust", but for questioning the figures and
numbers. Nobody on my web site is a DENIER. All that is asked
for is DIALOGUE and research which Jewish interests and power
forbids in all so called "western nations". For speaking as a
free man, stating his own opinion, he has been jailed in Canada,
the US and now in Germany. Are YOU against FREE SPEECH? Or only
against free speech when it comes to Jewish interests? You have
learned well from the ADL (gee it rhymes)... Attack, attack and
attack relentlessly when the "tribe" is put under scrutiny. You
would make a good "commisar" under communism and an even better
"enforcer" when it comes to the tribe. Always the first line of
fire is to throw labels like "anti-semite", "racist" and what
have you at people with a different opinion of what you hold
"sacred" and then go for the throat with "outrage" as reasoning
with you is simply impossible since you, deep down, know "what
to look for" anyways...
And YES, I will always defend ANYBODY'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH no
matter what it is. And by the way, Ernst Zundel has never
expressed any hateful or racist views. It is only his
questioning of the way the "holocaust" is treated as a "sacret-unquestionable
truth" that has brought him into trouble with the "authorities".
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Gemini Nymph
Knowflake
Posts: 1596
From:
Registered: Jul 2004 |
posted
December 28, 2006 02:58 AM
I missed the antisemitic part. I just saw enough to figure
out those idiots haven't a clue what "gnostic" actually means, and
skipped to the free report.
Haven't gotten mine yet. I wouldn't be surprised if I never got it.
I'm a Jew afterall. LOL.
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Lauren
Knowflake
Posts: 1089
From:
Registered: Aug 2005 |
posted
December 28, 2006 04:09 AM
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Duality
Knowflake
Posts: 241
From:
Registered: Jul 2003 |
posted
December 28, 2006 03:06 PM
quote:
I just saw enough to figure out those idiots haven't a clue what
"gnostic" actually means
Gemini, isn't that a laugh riot??? To call themselves "gnostics"???
Those astro reports are probably a means to lure people to their
site, to "recruit" new followers.
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jupitersgirl
Knowflake
Posts: 128
From:
Registered: Nov 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 03:10 PM
I also didn't like the site in general but I think the
reports are great.I've requested for 4 reports and I got them all.
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libraschoice7
Knowflake
Posts: 755
From: tucson, AZ, US
Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 03:12 PM
Sometimes when people see the word 'free' attached to
something they get all giddy and happy and all other words cease to
exsist for the time being. I got my report, and it was alright. Won't be
going there again for anything else though. I knew something was funny
about that background music!
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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer
I "FEEL" therefor I am
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jupitersgirl
Knowflake
Posts: 128
From:
Registered: Nov 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 03:32 PM
Getting a report from that site doesn't mean that you're
supporting them in any way. You're not doing anything good to them by
getting a report. So just benefit from it and ignore the rest, the rest
is nonesense anyway, it's all crap.
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Sweet Stars
Knowflake
Posts: 454
From: New York City
Registered: Dec 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 03:34 PM
Calm down people. It's not a cult.
sheesh.
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Gemini/Cancer cusp
Cancer Ascendant
Mercury Gemini
Taurus Moon *29
Venus Taurus
Mars Libra
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bleakbeauty
Knowflake
Posts: 403
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2005 |
posted
December 28, 2006 09:31 PM
Thanks for the link Lady Dee.
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Dulce Luna
Knowflake
Posts: 1880
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 09:37 PM
quote:
That's an antisemitic, neo nazi site.
Thats probably why I never got mine. I actually typed in my real
first name for some reason....they could've figured out from that that
I'm not "one of them". So much for being *generous*
I did think something was a bit off, I'll look again to find their
hate views. (Sorry, I'm an 8th house mooner...investigating is in my
blood).
*edit* Oh...ok, I should've scrolled down a bit instead of going
straight to the free reports. I saw most of it...even the swastika.Very
creepy 
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Sweet Stars
Knowflake
Posts: 454
From: New York City
Registered: Dec 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 09:48 PM
So do you think those Swastikas are just pictures having to
do with what the world is made of and what has happened or do you think
they support it?
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Cancer Ascendant
Mercury Gemini
Taurus Moon *29
Venus Taurus
Mars Libra
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Zingi
Knowflake
Posts: 77
From: Oklahoma
Registered: Mar 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 09:48 PM
I put mine in 2 days ago and still nada.
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Lady Dee
Knowflake
Posts: 43
From: Costa Rica
Registered: Jun 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 10:18 PM
As the OP of this post, I feel the need to weigh-in here. I
posted the address because I belive that the reports are extremely
detailed and well worth a look. I would hope that you would be able to
form your own opinion of the sites content. I only hope that other
members will be "gnostic" enough to make their own opinions. I am not
connected to the site in any way and do not necessarily agree with all
their content, however my intention was to allow others to enjoy their
readings.
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Lady Dee
Knowflake
Posts: 43
From: Costa Rica
Registered: Jun 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 10:20 PM
I also forgot, sorry. There are no swastikas on the site Also
there IS a difference between anti-zionist and anti-semite
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eatbooks
Knowflake
Posts: 180
From:
Registered: Dec 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 11:01 PM
Lady Dee- people somehow think anti zionist means anti semite.
ps- i didnt look at the site. if they really are a bunch of racist
pricks, i dont agree with it.
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Dulce Luna
Knowflake
Posts: 1880
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006 |
posted
December 28, 2006 11:27 PM
Oops, sorry my eyesight plays tricks on me at this time of
the day. I mistook one of their crosses for a swastika.
But yes, I know the difference between being Anti-zionist and anti-semitic;
that site is clearly the latter. I would've written them off as anti-zionists
if I hadn't looked deeper but they took it a step further to attack the
Jewish religion ("Judaism is no one's friend"). That's anti-semitic.
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Continue to "Letters to the
Gnostic Liberation Front"
The
Thunder, Perfect Mind
For all those
ignorant people who can not and perhaps will not understand that Gnosticism and
true Gnostics can not ever be neatly labeled and categorized I have included
this Gnostic text which seems to speak from a feminine "power" but in my opinion
refers to the ANDROGYNE , self-realized Gnostic who thus is neither female nor
male spiritually.
I was sent forth from the power,
-
and
I have come to those who reflect upon me,
-
and
I have been found among those who seek after me.
- Look upon me,
you who reflect upon me,
-
and
you hearers, hear me.
-
You
who are waiting for me, take me to yourselves.
- And do not
banish me from your sight.
- And do not make
your voice hate me, nor your hearing.
-
Do
not be ignorant of me anywhere or any time. Be on your guard!
-
Do
not be ignorant of me.
- For I am the
first and the last.
- I am the honored
one and the scorned one.
- I am the whore
and the holy one.
- I am the wife
and the virgin.
- I am <the
mother> and the daughter.
- I am the members
of my mother.
- I am the barren
one
-
and
many are her sons.
- I am she whose
wedding is great,
-
and
I have not taken a husband.
- I am the midwife
and she who does not bear.
- I am the solace
of my labor pains.
- I am the bride
and the bridegroom,
-
and
it is my husband who begot me.
- I am the mother
of my father
-
and
the sister of my husband
-
and
he is my offspring.
- I am the slave
of him who prepared me.
- I am the ruler
of my offspring.
-
But
he is the one who begot me before the time on a birthday.
-
And
he is my offspring in (due) time,
-
and
my power is from him.
- I am the staff
of his power in his youth,
-
and
he is the rod of my old age.
-
And
whatever he wills happens to me.
- I am the silence
that is incomprehensible
-
and
the idea whose remembrance is frequent.
- I am the voice
whose sound is manifold
-
and
the word whose appearance is multiple.
- I am the
utterance of my name.
- Why, you who
hate me, do you love me,
-
and
hate those who love me?
- You who deny me,
confess me,
-
and
you who confess me, deny me.
- You who tell the
truth about me, lie about me,
-
and
you who have lied about me, tell the truth about me.
- You who know me,
be ignorant of me,
-
and
those who have not known me, let them know me.
- For I am
knowledge and ignorance.
- I am shame and
boldness.
- I am shameless;
I am ashamed.
- I am strength
and I am fear.
- I am war and
peace.
- Give heed to me.
- I am the one who
is disgraced and the great one.
- Give heed to my
poverty and my wealth.
- Do not be
arrogant to me when I am cast out upon the earth,
-
and
you will find me in those that are to come.
- And do not look
upon me on the dung-heap
-
nor
go and leave me cast out,
-
and
you will find me in the kingdoms.
- And do not look
upon me when I am cast out among those who
-
are
disgraced and in the least places,
-
nor
laugh at me.
- And do not cast
me out among those who are slain in violence.
- But I, I am
compassionate and I am cruel.
- Be on your
guard!
- Do not hate my
obedience
-
and
do not love my self-control.
- In my weakness,
do not forsake me,
-
and
do not be afraid of my power.
- For why do you
despise my fear
-
and
curse my pride?
- But I am she who
exists in all fears
-
and
strength in trembling.
- I am she who is
weak,
-
and
I am well in a pleasant place.
- I am senseless
and I am wise.
- Why have you
hated me in your counsels?
- For I shall be
silent among those who are silent,
-
and
I shall appear and speak,
- Why then have
you hated me, you Greeks?
-
Because I am a barbarian among the barbarians?
- For I am the
wisdom of the Greeks
-
and
the knowledge of the barbarians.
- I am the
judgement of the Greeks and of the barbarians.
- I am the one
whose image is great in Egypt
-
and
the one who has no image among the barbarians.
- I am the one who
has been hated everywhere
-
and
who has been loved everywhere.
- I am the one
whom they call Life,
-
and
you have called Death.
- I am the one
whom they call Law,
-
and
you have called Lawlessness.
- I am the one
whom you have pursued,
-
and
I am the one whom you have seized.
- I am the one
whom you have scattered,
-
and
you have gathered me together.
- I am the one
before whom you have been ashamed,
-
and
you have been shameless to me.
- I am she who
does not keep festival,
-
and
I am she whose festivals are many.
- I, I am godless,
-
and
I am the one whose God is great.
- I am the one
whom you have reflected upon,
-
and
you have scorned me.
- I am unlearned,
-
and
they learn from me.
- I am the one
that you have despised,
-
and
you reflect upon me.
- I am the one
whom you have hidden from,
-
and
you appear to me.
- But whenever you
hide yourselves,
-
I
myself will appear.
- For whenever you
appear,
-
I
myself will hide from you.
- Those who have
[...] to it [...] senselessly [...].
- Take me [...
understanding] from grief.
-
and
take me to yourselves from understanding and grief.
- And take me to
yourselves from places that are ugly and in ruin,
-
and
rob from those which are good even though in ugliness.
- Out of shame,
take me to yourselves shamelessly;
-
and
out of shamelessness and shame,
-
upbraid my members in yourselves.
- And come forward
to me, you who know me
-
and
you who know my members,
-
and
establish the great ones among the small first creatures.
- Come forward to
childhood,
-
and
do not despise it because it is small and it is little.
- And do not turn
away greatnesses in some parts from the smallnesses,
-
for
the smallnesses are known from the greatnesses.
- Why do you curse
me and honor me?
- You have wounded
and you have had mercy.
- Do not separate
me from the first ones whom you have known.
- And do not cast
anyone out nor turn anyone away
-
[...] turn you away and [... know] him not.
-
[...].
-
What
is mine [...].
- I know the first
ones and those after them know me.
- But I am the
mind of [...] and the rest of [...].
- I am the
knowledge of my inquiry,
-
and
the finding of those who seek after me,
-
and
the command of those who ask of me,
-
and
the power of the powers in my knowledge
-
of
the angels, who have been sent at my word,
-
and
of gods in their seasons by my counsel,
-
and
of spirits of every man who exists with me,
-
and
of women who dwell within me.
- I am the one who
is honored, and who is praised,
-
and
who is despised scornfully.
- I am peace,
-
and
war has come because of me.
- And I am an
alien and a citizen.
- I am the
substance and the one who has no substance.
- Those who are
without association with me are ignorant of me,
-
and
those who are in my substance are the ones who know me.
- Those who are
close to me have been ignorant of me,
-
and
those who are far away from me are the ones who have known me.
- On the day when
I am close to you, you are far away from me,
-
and
on the day when I am far away from you, I am close to you.
- [I am ...]
within.
- [I am ...] of
the natures.
- I am [...] of
the creation of the spirits.
- [...] request of
the souls.
- I am control and
the uncontrollable.
- I am the union
and the dissolution.
- I am the abiding
and I am the dissolution.
- I am the one
below,
-
and
they come up to me.
- I am the
judgment and the acquittal.
- I, I am sinless,
-
and
the root of sin derives from me.
- I am lust in
(outward) appearance,
-
and
interior self-control exists within me.
- I am the hearing
which is attainable to everyone
-
and
the speech which cannot be grasped.
- I am a mute who
does not speak,
-
and
great is my multitude of words.
- Hear me in
gentleness, and learn of me in roughness.
- I am she who
cries out,
-
and
I am cast forth upon the face of the earth.
- I prepare the
bread and my mind within.
- I am the
knowledge of my name.
- I am the one who
cries out,
-
and
I listen.
- I appear and
[...] walk in [...] seal of my [...].
- I am [...] the
defense [...].
- I am the one who
is called Truth
-
and
iniquity [...].
- You honor me
[...] and you whisper against me.
- You who are
vanquished, judge them (who vanquish you)
-
before they give judgment against you,
-
because the judge and partiality exist in you.
- If you are
condemned by this one, who will acquit you?
-
Or,
if you are acquitted by him, who will be able to detain you?
- For what is
inside of you is what is outside of you,
-
and
the one who fashions you on the outside
-
is
the one who shaped the inside of you.
-
And
what you see outside of you, you see inside of you;
-
it
is visible and it is your garment.
- Hear me, you
hearers
-
and
learn of my words, you who know me.
- I am the hearing
that is attainable to everything;
-
I am
the speech that cannot be grasped.
- I am the name of
the sound
-
and
the sound of the name.
- I am the sign of
the letter
-
and
the designation of the division.
- And I [...].
- (3 lines
missing)
- [...] light
[...].
- [...] hearers
[...] to you
- [...] the great
power.
- And [...] will
not move the name.
- [...] to the one
who created me.
-
And
I will speak his name.
- Look then at his
words
-
and
all the writings which have been completed.
- Give heed then,
you hearers
-
and
you also, the angels and those who have been sent,
-
and
you spirits who have arisen from the dead.
- For I am the one
who alone exists,
-
and
I have no one who will judge me.
- For many are the
pleasant forms which exist in numerous sins,
-
and
incontinencies,
-
and
disgraceful passions,
-
and
fleeting pleasures,
-
which (men) embrace until they become sober
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and
go up to their resting place.
- And they will
find me there,
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and
they will live,
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and
they will not die again.
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2 This’s universal problem - in Russia too…
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3 heh–”Little Gnostic Footballs”
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This is weird, because I was actually gonna write a post called Gnostic Front on April 1st as a joke. The content was gonna be exactly the kind of thing on that site.