The Illuminati Formula
Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind
Controlled Slave
by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier
Here is a remarkable and powerful book. Save it. Copy it., Give it to friends and therapists for compassionate work. You now have in your hands the very tools that can deprogram the dream. Once you know this, and you absorb its implications, you can no longer be blind folded. By reading this, you may be helping millions of monarch slaves . These techniques only work by our ignorance of knowing them. Herein, let us apply the Heart to the mind, and awaken a Middle Way, by infiltrating another piece of the cancer of sleep, as All Is God in Action.
Dedication
This book is dedicated to the two million Americans and counting who have been programmed with Monarch-type trauma-based mind control. This book is written to destroy trauma-based mind control before it destroys the human race. It’s time for this horrendous secret to end.
Blood, sweat and tears are associated with this book. The blood of the innocent victims of this mind-control cries out in a single unison, along with the pungent sweat of those who have tried to minister help to the shattered humanity left by the sadistic programmers, and the pools of tears shed as this book was written, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, do you not judge and avenge our blood on earth?"
WARNING, READ THIS FIRST BEFORE READING THE BOOK. IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE you the reader have had mind-control done to you, you must consider the following book to be DANGEROUS. If you are consulting a therapist for DID (also known as MPD), it is recommended that you consult your therapist before reading this book. The complications that could result for those under mind control learning the truth--could be fatal. The co-authors take no responsibility for those who read or misuse this information.
The reader’s mind is like a garden. It may not be time to plant the truth in your mind. Perhaps you need some weeding or ground preparation, before the garden of your mind is ready. Perhaps the weather is too stormy to plant the truth.
The blessings that flow from planting the information of this book in your mind, will require the presence of living waters of love. If you do not have love in your heart, this book is not for you. The information contained in this book is the biggest news-story of the 20th century, and still the biggest secret. It will challenge you, shock you, horrify you and hopefully motivate you to redouble your efforts to humble yourself and seek strength from God.
The programming procedures which are described in this book are based on research and consultation with deprogrammers, ex-programmers, therapists, counselors and pertinent literature. To the best of our knowledge the statements made in this book are factual, although they may not reflect the latest or currently accepted methodology among each and every faction of the New World Order which carries out Monarch-type programming. This book tends to devote more emphasis to Illuminati programming, which is the highest level of programming.
For individual application in understanding a survivor of Monarch programming, therapists are admonished to use this material with consideration for the Monarch victim’s personal case and situation.
The authors disclaim any responsibility for therapeutic work based upon this material.
Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler have co-authored They Know Not What They Do, An Illustrated Guidebook To Monarch Mind Control. Both Fritz and Cisco bring years of experience in dealing with Monarch programming to bear on the writing of this book. Fritz has researched the Illuminati, while he has worked with victims of its programming. He has authored The Top 13 Illuminati Families, and several other books.
Introduction by Fritz
There are many dangers to the human race, some real and some imagined. I believe that the trauma-based mind control which this book exposes is the greatest danger to the human race. It gives evil men the power to carry out any evil deed totally undetected. By the time the astute reader finishes this book, they will be as familiar with how to carry out trauma-based mind-control as some of the programmers. Ancient and more recent secrets will no longer be secrets.
Over the years, I have spent thousands of hours studying the Illuminati, the Intelligence agencies of the world, and the occult world in general. The centerpiece of these organizations is the trauma-based mind control that they carry out. Without the ability to carry out this sophisticated type of mind-control using MPD, drugs, hypnosis and electronics and other control methodologies, these organizations would fail to keep their dark evil deeds secret.
When one of the mind-control programmers of the Church of Scientology, who has left Scientology, was asked about MPD, he said, "It’s the name of the game of mind control." Research into this subject will never be complete. This book has tried to give a comprehensive view of how the programming is done.
The basic techniques were developed in German, Scottish, Italian, and English Illuminati families and have been done for centuries. Some report that some of the techniques go back to ancient Egypt and ancient Babylon to the ancient mystery religions. The Nazis are known to have studied ancient Egyptian texts in their mind control research. The records and secrets of the generational Illuminati bloodlines are very-well guarded secrets.
Even when I’ve learned about the location of secret depositories of some of the Illuminati’s secrets in Europe, America, and Asia, their records and secrets are too well-guarded to be examined. The intelligence agencies, such as MI-6 began investigating these mind-control techniques early this century, but their records have been routinely destroyed and tampered with. There are some survivors and professionals who know that the British used programmed trauma-based MPD (DID) agents in W.W. I.
In Jan., 1987, Richard Kluft submitted an article to the American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis about 8 MPD patients who were between 60 and 72 years of age. Traugott Konstantin Oesterreich (1880-1949), who was professor of philosophy at Tubingen University, Germany studied MPD and demonic possession and wrote a classic study of it in 1921 entitled Possession Demonical & Other, which was translated into English in 1930. His classic work on this subject provides documented cases which reveal that the basic trauma-based mind-control was going on in Germany, France & Belgium long before the 20th century. Although he is unable to put together all the pieces and the clues for what they are, the reader of this book might enjoy reading the 1930 English translation of his classic work after they finish this book.
Oesterreich’s research in early 1900s was the type of research that the Nazi mind-control programmers were very aware of. In 1921, the Germans such as Oesterreich would describe personality switches, by the term "somnambuliform [hypnotic states] possession" or "demonical somnambulism" or what might be called "Besessenheit von Hypnotismus und bõsen Geistern."
The ability to study both the spiritual & psychological aspects of mind-control phenomena, is often lacking today. There are exceptions such as Dr. Loreda Fox’s book The Spiritual Dimensions of MPD. In the 1920s, the Germans also were aware that the human mind has a variety of ego-psycho-physiological states rather than one unified mind, which they termed "Sub jecklose Psychologie" or the psychology of having correlated psychological states rather than the concept of a single ego. The Germans and Italians under the Nazi and Fascist governments began to do serious scientific research into trauma-based mind control.
Under the auspices of the Kaiser Wilhelm Medical Institute in Berlin, Joseph Mengele conducted mind-control research on thousands of twins, and thousands of other hapless victims. Himmler supervised genetic research. The Nazi research records were confiscated by the Allies and are still classified.
A trip can be made from downtown Washington D.C. on a gray-government van which serves as a shuttle to the Suitland Annex where the government’s secrets are buried including research papers captured from the Nazi Mind-Control research.
Most of Mengele’s concentration camp research is still classified. Much of it dealt with mind control. A researcher can visit the top floor, but underground below the top floor are the real secrets. The real secrets are lying in millions of sheets of classified documents hidden behind blast proof doors. There they have vault after vault, and row after row of top-secret files that only a few privileged persons with security clearances above COSMIC--such as with a "C3" or "MJ" security clearance can visit. Everyone with these high security clearances which I have identified is connected to the Illuminati. Each underground area at Suitland Annex has its own subset of secret access words, known only to the initiated.
Most of the OSS records have been destroyed, a few have been left, the important ones have been misfiled or remade. (This is according to a reliable British intelligent agent.) Also according to reliable inside sources the CIA is working night and day to remake old records, to expunge all the real dirty secrets from their records.
The basement of CIA HQ is known as "the Pit," In the Pit documents are being shredded and burned on a round the clock basis. The large remains of these secrets are sold for landfill. The Illuminati have developed secrecy to a fine art. They train their people in the art of secrecy from the time they are born. Most everything they do, is done orally. They are trained not to write rituals and other things down. There is very little paper trail left by the Illuminati.
The creation of slaves with photographic memories facilitates this secrecy. But this book is not about how they have managed to keep their trauma-based Monarch Mind-Control a secret. They have managed only to keep it a secret to the general public. They have not been able to completely cover-up the millions of wasted lives that their programming has ruined.
For many years, they were able to shut-up and quietly discard their programmed multiples by labeling them Paranoid Schizophrenics. But therapists are now correctly identifying these people as programmed multiples and are not only diagnosing them better but giving them better treatment.
After Candy Jones’s husband deprogrammed her enough that she could participate in writing a book exposing some of what had been done to her, the secret was out. (See The Control of Candy Jones Hypnotism and the CIA by Donald Bain.) Ever since then, the intelligence agencies and the Illuminati have been carrying out damage control. Their biggest damage control campaign has enlisted the power of Hollywood and the controlled Media. This campaign is known as the False Memory Syndrome campaign, or as those of us who know the facts like to call it ""the false memory spin-drome."
The headquarters of the False Memory Spin-drom Foundation is located at 3401 Market St., Suite 130, Philadelphia, PA 19104. Some of the original founders were doctors of the University of Pennsylvania. The inside story about these early FMS doctors of the University of Pennsylvania is that they practiced Satanic Rituals during their work days. What is unusual about this--is that generally satanic rituals are performed at night, but these doctors did their coven work during the day. I know about these men. Now you can see why these men started the FMS! They started it to cover their own sins, because many of them were abusers themselves. In other words many of the EMS people are abusers of trauma-based mind-controlled slaves, or the victims of abuse who are in denial about their own abuse from trauma-based mind-control. Martin T. Orn (the person credited with founding the FMS) had ties to the CIA.
Two members of the EMS advisory board, Ralph Underwager, Ph.D. and theologian, along with Hollida Wakefield, M.A. let the cat out of the bag when they publicly supported pedophilia (that is adults having sex with children). Their support of pedophilia came in an interview with a Dutch magazine Paidika, The Journal of Pedophilia (Winter, 1993).
Although the False Memory Syndrome Foundation gets upset at any mention that there might be a conspiracy by the perpetrators of mind-control, because conspiracies supposedly don’t and can’t happen, they want us to believe that all therapists are conspiring together to implant false memories of abuse into their clients, which could not be further from the truth.
Monarch slaves typically run into a great deal of denial by their therapists that anything like this could be happening. The bottom line is that Multiple Personality Disorder (now referred to as Dissociative Identity Disorder) is a recognized bona fide diagnosis. False Memory Syndrome is not a recognized medical or psychological diagnosis and does not appear in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III-R nor the recently released DSM-IV.
Those who followed Fritz’s writings have learned about the close working relationship between the Mondavi’s and the Rothschild's (see his article about the Mondavi/Rothschild Napa Valley winery). Guess who got the court precedence which gives the EMS some legal ground to attack therapists? The precedence was supposedly a wife who went to a doctor who told her she had syphilis. The wife assumes she got it from her husband and divorces him. Then she learns she doesn’t have syphilis. The husband then sues the doctor. Upon this bizarre case rests the legal precedence for a third party to sue a person who gives advice, such as family members suing a therapist.
Upon this weak precedence, an abusive father who worked for Monday in a winery in California successfully destroyed a legitimate therapist who was trying to save his daughter who was a programmed Monarch victim. Supposedly the therapist had implanted false memories of rape in his daughter, when the record shows that the daughter’s mother told the therapist the girl had been raped by the father.
When a valid case of SRA and repressed memories went to trial in Washington state involving a police officer whose family was MPD, Dr. Richard Ofshe of the False Memory Spindrom showed up to cause mischief. And mischief he did work. The case involved the children of a ""Christian"" police officer named Ingram who had satanically ritually abused his family for years. The daughter won in court, but Ofshe of the EMS was not above writing a book full of lies and distortions about the case. Lynn Crook, who was the abused daughter in the case wrote up a paper exposing what EMS person Richard Ofshe did to her, The controlled media is giving full license and great coverage to the EMS people.
Rather than fighting the government for scraps of declassified documents which have had their secrets marked out, and which may even be fake documents manufactured by the CIA, I have decided that there is a much better approach to expose the Monarch Mind Control to the world. If a person could never go to Nepal, he can see pictures of it and believe it exists. If a person can not get into the top secret records of the CIA and Office of Naval Intelligence and MI6, they can be given the exact RECIPE for creating a Monarch slave.
I believe that by giving the step by step recipe, people will see that A. all the ingredients are available, B. it is possible to combine the ingredients, C. all it takes is the motive to do it, and that motive is self-evident. We’ll even provide some of the names and places as we go along.
This book will provide the step-by-step recipe for making a Monarch Mind-Controlled slave, It is a trauma-based mind control which programs multiple personalities using every known technique of mind-control. Every type of mind-control technique has been combined into a group package which makes the total package almost impossible to break. It is this ability to synthesize all these methods into a group package which is so powerful.
Edward Hunter, author of Brainwashing In Red China, testified in 1958 before a U.S. Congressional House Committee on Un-American Activities:
"Since man began, he has tried to influence other men or women to his way of thinking. There have always been these forms of pressure to change attitudes. We discovered in the past thirty years, a technique to influence, by clinical, hospital procedures, the thinking processes of human beings. Brainwashing is formed out of a set of different elements ... hunger, fatigue, tenseness, threats, violence, and in more intense cases...drugs and hypnotism. No one of these elements alone can be regarded as brain washing, any more than an apple can be called apple pie. Other ingredients have to be added, and a cooking process gone through. So it is with brainwashing..."
Hunter said brainwashing was a Red Chinese threat. He said that the Chinese were the ones using these tactics. In reality, this mind control was being done in the U.S. and Hunter was a pawn to help justify the criminal activities of the programmers should they ever be found out behind their cover of "National security."
The handlers of mind-controlled slaves carry around a black or grey 3 ring notebook or a lap top computer with the access codes and triggers. Some of the programmers and handlers have this all memorized. The deepest parts, core/gems/executive committee, false trinity etc. are charted in esoteric language such as Enochian, Hebrew (which is considered magical), and Druid symbols.
I have never gotten the opportunity to look at one of these, although a number of the slaves who I’ve talked with have while they were being programmed. These notebooks have color-coded graphs showing the arrangement of alters, the structure of the system, the training of the alters, the history of the alters and other details. All the primary tortures carried out on a slave are coded using dates/no.s so that the memories can be pulled up by the programmers.
There is a standard set of hand signals, gestures, and codes that allow a handler to work with someone else’s slave, but the accepted code among the handlers is to leave another man’s slave alone. As one leading psychiatrist put it, "Different ideologies use the same methodologies of mind control."
The Illuminati have secretly put in base programming that allows them ultimate control over many of the other groups’ slaves. This will be described within this book.
For both the ease of reading and the ease of writing, I have dispensed with most footnotes. To provide my sources would double the size of the book, and many of them are confidential. (In the past, when I have attempted crediting information, some people have gotten bruised feelings for having been passed over or for being named. When information comes in from several sources, it becomes difficult to pass out credit.) I have made conservative judgment calls about what material I could use.
Most of this information has been verified by several reliable sources. Confidential eyewitnesses are often the only source, when there is such a powerful conspiracy to keep this vast NWO mind control secret. Paper trails were not left or are not available. Programmed slaves who have worked for the military as mind-controlled slaves have witnessed their files expunged and sanitized.
The New World Order in 1981 made training films for their novice programmers. Monarch slave Cathy O’Brien was used to make both the film "How to Divide a Personality" and "How To Create a Sex Slave." Two Huntsville porn photographers were used to help NASA and the NWO create these training films. Undoubtedly, other porn training films exist too. In others words, there is film evidence of the Monarch Total Mind-control but these porn films are kept in very secure sites.
During the last few years, I have visited with ex-programmers, I have visited with hundreds of victims of the Monarch type programming. I have gone to programming sites, I have visited with therapists who work with the victims of this mind-control, and I have met several of the programmers of the CIA/Illuminati face to face in the adventures of trying to save people from their programming.
I hope that God gives me the strength and the opportunity to get the information I have learned out to the world in general. When this information gets out, hopefully it will help lift some of the secrecy of the Monarch Programming.
The Monarch Programming is a foundation rock of the New World Order that when pulled up, will reveal the most evil two-legged bugs and slimy critters. When their rock is lifted, they will have to scurry to hide. Because the authors know what the programmers do, they must honestly record several areas of programming that will be controversial. The programmers are very much into demonology. Before therapists close their minds to this subject, the authors would like to point out, that they personally know of cases where Monarch slaves whose Christian personalities & other alters didn’t believe in demonology were talked into participating in real deliverance, and the slaves discovered much to their surprise that work they had unsuccessfully tried to do for years with their therapist was accomplished in a day or two.
Some prestigious researchers have decided the subconscious doesn’t exist because they can’t find it--its mysterious. To the man in the street the concept "subconscious" is as mysterious as the concept "demon".
Both have been the objects of intense research by U.S./Brit./Ger. Intelligence groups. In fact, many of the concepts in this book have been purposely obscured by the Illuminati’s control over the media and universities. These obscured concepts include M.P.D. (DID), recovered memories, hypnosis, demonic possession, aliens, mind-control, the subconscious, a conspiracy to bring in a NWO, truth, etc. The smokescreens of controversy will continue; but those who love the truth, if they seek it, will realize the importance of this book.
It’s on public record that MK ULTRA, the mind control research which CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner admitted to in 1977 spent millions of dollars studying Voodoo, witchcraft, and psychics. On August 3, 1977, at a Senate hearing the then CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner disclosed that the CIA had been conducting mind control on countless numbers of unsuspecting victims for years, without their knowledge or consent. These CIA mind-control operations were carried out with the participation of a least 185 scientists and at least 80 American institutions, including prisons, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and 44 medical colleges & universities. Many of America’s most prestigious institutes of medical research, had cooperated with the CIA. as well as numerous big name corporations.
Casey admitted that day that the CIA did mind-control consisting of drugs, hypnosis & electro-shock. A few of the victims of the Monarch Project were even awarded financial compensation for their misery.
But what was admitted was admitted in the spirit of covering up the extent of the full truth. The compensation was actually hush money, because victims were given "gag orders" by judges not to talk about what had happened to them.
FOR CHRISTIAN DEPROGRAMMERS It’s been a disaster for Monarch victims that so many ministers have ignored those words of their Scripture, "For we are not ignorant of the devil’s devices." 2 COR 2:11
This book is a must for those ministers who seriously believe "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God." 2 COR 7:1. In 2 TIM 2: 19-21, believers who "nameth the name of Christ" are asked to purge themselves of their uncleanliness ( unclean spirits).
There are many top notch Christians in the churches today who are under mind-control, incl. many of the Christian leadership. Ignorance is not godliness. One of the character traits of God is that He is all-knowing. WHO says it is godly to be ignorant? The prophet Daniel said God "reveals the deep and secret things." (Dan. 2:22a) Jesus’ advice to his disciples was in effect to "Be wise as serpents, and gentle as a lamb". This advice certainly applies in helping the victims of trauma-based mind-control. Paul in his letter to the Thessalonians (1 Thes 5:14) says that in effect that different people need different counseling, but they all need to be treated with patience.
The first step in suggesting a cure is to find out what happened. That is what this book is about. This book is about how the Occult Network creates the problem that therapists and a few ministers try to deal with. But the keys to open doors to healthy solutions for the victims of trauma-based total mind control will reveal themselves in this book for the reader as this book reveals the nitty-gritty of how the total mind-control happens.
Satanic ritual abuse has a history that is almost as old as history itself. Good King Hezekiah was a victim as a child of SRA. (2 Chr. 29) who got free. Moses confronted the satanic magic of Pharaoh's magicians who could create live snakes from sticks. The Apostle Paul had to deal with Simon Magus, a leader of what is now known as Satanism. Solomon, one of the greatest men of faith, backslide and became one of the greatest Satanists of all history. We have "no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (as per EPH 5:11).
While we have no fellowship with evil, the mind-control programmers are counting on us being so ignorant of their devices that they can hide their control devices behind perversion & filth that many people shy away from. We must be strong enough to face evil and not shy away from it.
The victims of mind-control must look evil in the face & not look away to gain their freedom. We, who want to help them, must be courageous & strong enough to do this too.
This book is written for that divine goal "till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ." Eph. 4:13 If the body of Christ is to attain fullness, we need this book to weed out the hidden terrible cancer that is consuming the body from within.
This book is written for ministers, secular and Christian therapists, and truth lovers of all kinds. If you love the truth this book is for you. If you see something good in the human race so that our species should be preserved as well as the spotted owl and the sand flea, then this book is for you. IF YOU LOVE THE TRUTH, this BOOK is for YOU.
Glossary of How Basic Terms are Used In This Book For those readers who are not familiar with these basic terms let us introduce you to the definitions under which this book uses them.
Alter-Our usage is trying to follow the programmers usage of this word. A dissociated part of the mind which has a separate identity and is given cue codes by the mind-control programmers to trigger that dissociated part of the mind to come to the front of the mind. The alter’s identity may be a gem, rock, a tape recorder, a poodle, a white kitten, a dove, a horse, or even think of itself as a person or a demon. It all depends on its programming. An alter is different from an alter fragment in that the alter fragment is a dissociated part of the mind which serves only a single purpose.
The programmers will give an alter a history, and insure that shadow alters will provide a full range of accessible emotions. Sometimes the distinctions between alters and alter fragments is vague, but examples from the two ends of the spectrum are easy to tell apart. We use the word alter in this book to conform to what the programmers’ charts are encoding as alters. A typical main Mengele-created grid would be a grid of 13 x 13 principal A-coded alters, which is 169 principle alter personalities.
In Illuminati systems, ceremonial "alters will consist of 3 alters placed on a spinning pedestal together into triad goddesses or gods. That means that an A-coded alter on some levels is actually 3 alters spinning together, which must be locked in place to communicate with, and then rotated to communicate to the other two.
Beta--This is the second Greek letter, and it represents the sexual models and sexual alters that the Programmers are creating. The primitive part of the brain is involved in this type of programming. An early sexual abuse event will be used to anchor this programming. These sexual slaves will develop sexual abilities that are far beyond what the public is aware is even possible. They also receive the worst kind of abuse far beyond what most people’s imagination can picture. Beta alters generally see themselves as cats.
Councils (llluminati)--The Illuminati has frequent meetings. Some of these meetings are organized to appear "acephalous" and "accidental" in their meetings, when in reality they are structured and planned. One group, MJ-12 has gone by the following names: the Group, the Special Study Group, the Wise Men, the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB), 5412 Committee, 303 Committee, 40 Committee, PI-40 Committee, and Policy Planning Group (PCG). Some of the formal policy and ritual groups have names that all Illuminati members who have gotten high enough to learn, will recognize:
The Council of 3, Council of 5, Council of 7, Council of 9, The Grand Druid Council, The Committee of 300, and the Committee of 500 (known as Fortune 500). Many of the meetings are conclaves without formal names. The Grand Druid Council is not something fictional, but an actual body of people who formally meet and whose membership, we have been trying to keep track of. The groups which make decisions to control this planet are networked together. Each decision has its own origin and route that it takes.
Delta--This is a Greek letter shaped like a triangle which symbolizes change in calculus. It has become a favorite word to use in naming things for the occult elite. Delta teams are 4 person assassination teams which usually are secret teams. Delta Forces is an elite unit that operates under the Joint chiefs of staff that is made up of highly trained total mind-controlled slaves. Delta models are slaves whose sole purpose is assassination. Delta alters are alters within an Illuminati alter system which are programmed to be assassins. These alters are often some of the deepest in a system and in a Genie bottle or with Umbrella programming.
Deliverance ministry-(This book is about HOW the mind-control is done, it is not a textbook on solutions.) The use of the term deliverance ministry in this book can-notates any person(s) who via faith in God is able to pray for divine help in a fashion that a victim is helped from demonic activity. A deliverance ministry is a natural outgrowth of a life in harmony and fellowship with God. However, this is not to be confused with Exorcism of the traditional Catholic or witchcraft nature in which certain spells and incantations are used in a prescribed method. "Deliverance" can-notates divinely inspired faith, exorcism involves ritual. A deliverance ministry might perhaps teach a person about forgiveness, or how they can renounce an oath, or how to apply Jesus Christ’s atoning blood to their life. In this fashion, the person finds deliverance through biblical spiritual principles rather than the efficacy of some ritual or hocus pocus spell. This book is in no way meant as a blanket endorsement of every spiritual warfare tactic. If anything, this book suggests that ministers learn more about mind-control, as well as grow stronger in their walk with God.
Illuminati
The Illuminati are 13 elite bloodlines which have maneuvered themselves into control over this planet. They lead double lives, one for society and a hidden one which is based on a gnostic luciferian philosophy which consists of lots of blood rituals.
Monarch Programming--This was a specific Project carried out by secret elements of the U.S. government and intelligence groups. There were, according to someone a few years ago who had access to the computer(s) which contains all the names of active monitored human slaves, 40,000 actively monitored Monarch slaves. However, this book uses the term generically to include all victims who have suffered this type of trauma-based mind-control. In the same way, that a brand name like "Hyster" is used to describe all lifts--when we use the term we use it in its broadest sense. This is the only way it can be used and technically correct, because as of this date, the authors have not seen who is on the active Monarch Program list of slaves.
System
This term is used in several ways. It is frequently used to refer to a victim of total mind control because the victim consists of alters, programming, implant(s), internal computers, and numerous dissociative states which function together as a system. The word is also used in this book to refer to the body’s functional physiological units, such as the respiratory system. The word is also infrequently used to denote the established social-economic-political system controlling the world, also known insiders as the Network. Other standard meaning may also occasionally be used for the word.
Multiple Personality/Multiple personalities or MPD
Dissociative Identity Disorder or DID is the situation where different dissociative parts of a single brain view themselves as separate persons. The DSM-IIIR definition of MPD is the guideline for determining MPD for this book.
New World Order-- The New World Order is the global design for a One-World-Government One-World-Dictator and its constituents. Insiders call themselves the "network" and "the neighborhood".
Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA)--This is used to represent all categories of ritual abuse which would be inspired by the desire to rob, kill, or destroy something worthwhile in a person, especially their freedom of thought. Many groups carrying out SRA do not mention Satan by that name. They may make Pacts to Baphomet, and call upon Rex Mundi, or Belair, or Lucifer, or the Father of Light, God, or Kali or even "Jesus" or "Jesus Christ". SRA is not a value judgment by the authors against some group, the victims themselves on some level know that he or she is being abused.
Switching--This is when one part (fragment) of the mind takes over from another, or in simple terms, this is when one alter personality (or alter fragment) takes the body from the alter which is holding the body. Switching can occur via the Programmers’ codes for calling up alters, or by external or internal stimuli that trigger an alter to come out. Switching will usually cause at least a flicker of the eyes, and for outside observers, who know the different personalities, they will observe another personality take the body.
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CKLN 88.1 FM Ryerson Polytechnical University Toronto, Ontario
Producer/Interviewer Wayne Morris:
Good morning, and welcome to The International Connection. We are in week #40 in
our radio series on mind control, and today we begin an interview with Cisco
Wheeler, co-author of "The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable
Mind Controlled Slave" and other books about trauma-based conditioning. Cisco is
a mind control victim of one of the Illuminati families. She is a descendant of
Ulysses S. Grant and has managed to gain a certain amount of freedom from her
family's control. She is currently working with Fritz Springmeier to help other
victims of mind control heal. Cisco rarely does interviews, so we are very
fortunate to be able to bring you this interview with Cisco Wheeler.
I would like to start off by asking you what your background is and how you
first became involved in trauma-based conditioning mind control.
Cisco Wheeler:
I was first involved as an infant. My father came from a trans-generational
satanic family. My life was planned according to a particular structure, from
the beginning, as my father was a programmer for the Illuminati and the U.S.
government.
Wayne Morris:
What political/military connections did your family have that you are aware of?
Cisco Wheeler:
We had a very strong political background. My father had political connections;
my Great Uncle was General Earl Grant Wheeler, he was a direct descendant of
Ulysses Grant. General Earl Wheeler was the head of the American military in the
Vietnam War. He was the Joint Chief of Staff so we had a very strong political
background. My father was also a Grand Master within the Illuminati. He worked
on the west coast during the Vietnam War with his uncle who headed the military,
to run drugs into this country to create a drug culture. The purpose of that was
to destroy the structure within the family unit. The drug culture was the real
purpose behind the Vietnam War. My father was also with the USO shows in the
military as he was a musician; he was also involved with the CIA; and he was a
33rd degree Mason. Because of his being a Grand Master within the Illuminati, he
was very strongly connected to America's political structure. Because of the
generational ties within the Illuminati, from the planned time of my conception,
I entered into a world that was well structured, and well planned. And as a
structured slave within the Illuminati, I too became connected to America's
political structure. As a small child I was groomed to sexually service the
so-called elite within this political structure.
Wayne Morris:
Are you talking about people in the White House?
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes. President Eisenhower is the first president that I remember. He befriended
me as a small child. I would sit on his lap, sing to him, there were sexual
gestures back and forth. I was being trained. I entertained governors, mayors,
ministers. I was trained in sexual activity there, and I was part of the
Illuminati function within the British Royal Family during elite meetings.
Wayne Morris:
How young do you remember when you started being subjected to trauma
conditioning ... from birth?
Cisco Wheeler:
I was traumatized in the womb.
Wayne Morris:
How did you first realize that your family was connected with the Illuminati?
Cisco Wheeler:
If you understand multiplicity, you understand there are many layers in the
system. Because there are many layers, parts of ourselves knew, and had many
memories of certain things happening in our life, but the front part of our
system that faced the outside world, they had no recall or memory at all that
associated them to Illuminati programming or trauma based mind control. So if I
speak for the front part of our mind, they knew nothing was wrong at all,
outside of knowing they had a very abusive childhood. They didn't really know
anything was wrong until my father died. When he died, that freed our mind to be
able to retrieve memory, and at that point, they understood something was wrong.
They started hearing voices and having flashbacks and having information that
was retrieved, that they knew they didn't have a "history" of and they couldn't
figure out what happened.
Where did this come from? This isn't the way I think. Why would I be thinking
about sexual issues when I have no recall of ever being sexually abused or why
do I remember that I was in a certain place but yet I don't remember ... it's
all second hand. Do you understand what I am saying? So, it wasn't until after
my father died that they started breaking down the hypnotic walls within the
mind that protected me from knowing what happened. Over a period of time,
because of memory retrieval and flashbacks, and the trauma it was causing, they
became extremely suicidal and they didn't believe in suicide, they sought help.
They went into a hospital for nine weeks and started working with a therapist,
and after a time period they realized it wasn't normal to want to die when your
father died, and we found out there was a real deep problem.
Wayne Morris:
Did these initial therapists that you worked with have knowledge of mind control
or trauma based conditioning techniques at the time?
Cisco Wheeler:
Very vaguely. We were one of the first multiples diagnosed in this area and we
basically worked with our therapist and she learned. She made a commitment to
us, and what she didn't know, she found out.
Wayne Morris:
Your father was your main handler and programmer, and how old were you when he
died?
Cisco Wheeler:
My father was my handler and programmer, and I was forty years old when he died.
Wayne Morris:
How did you manage to break free of your family's control of your life at that
time? Did other people step in ...
Cisco Wheeler:
When the Master dies, generally the slave also dies, but because of our
determination to fight the programming and to get to the bottom of what was
happening within our mind, we were able to fight the suicide programming. >From
there we started a journey into understanding that we were a structured multiple
which we didn't even know what that was ... that we had a long road ahead of us,
a hard road to travel.
Wayne Morris:
Did you have to travel that alone or did other people help you?
Cisco Wheeler:
No. I had a very strong support team. Several people in my support team were
also victims of mind control.
Wayne Morris:
The people that weren't, they had an understanding of the mind control
techniques?
Cisco Wheeler:
No. We started this journey basically learning to understand ourselves,
listening to ourselves, confronting each other within the system with this is
what is happening with you, putting our notes together and realizing 'hey we are
getting our memories separately, we are feeling the same way, reacting the same
way', taking one step at a time because thirteen years ago, nobody really knew
anything about MPD.
Wayne Morris:
Did your father also victimize other people?
Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely. He was a master programmer.
Wayne Morris:
Did you have brothers and sisters that were affected as well?
Cisco Wheeler:
Not to the degree that I was. I was the firstborn.
Wayne Morris:
Is it because you were the firstborn that you were chosen for this kind of
victimization or were there other reasons?
Cisco Wheeler:
In part. In the late forties the Illuminati wanted to infiltrate the churches
because they understood the power of God within the structure of the church, and
they had to find a way to infiltrate the church to break down that spiritual
strength within the church, the power of the holy spirit that works within the
church. They had to find a way to infiltrate that, and they wanted to bring the
world into the churches so that the churches wouldn't be so strong spiritually.
That was part of my father's job. In order to do that my father married my
mother who was not Illuminati, nor was she ritual, but she did have a very
strong religious background. She was that perfect example for the world, that
perfect wife for the church, to set examples for other young women in the
church. When my father married her, that was his way to infiltrate the church,
through my mother.
Wayne Morris:
Throughout your father's life, how did he go about infiltrating during this
process?
Cisco Wheeler:
By becoming part of the church, by being a minister, by being ordained, by
getting into the youth groups, becoming very friendly with the Elders and the
Board of Directors within the congregation itself. This was the Pentecostal
churches.
Wayne Morris:
You mentioned your father's role in drug trafficking within the Vietnam War.
Could you expand on that?
Cisco Wheeler:
When the Vietnam soldiers were killed and they brought their bodies back, drugs
were hidden in the cavities in their bodies. My father's responsibility was to
get that from the mortician and it would be a controlled substance at that
point, and he was the handler of that controlled substance. He wasn't active in
Vietnam. He was just the extended hand that was used within our government to
make sure the drugs met their destination.
Wayne Morris:
Once the drugs came over into North America, what were your father's connections
in terms of the distribution at that point?
Cisco Wheeler:
I do not know. I was not allowed to know that. I didn't see it. I was too young
at that time ... well, I wasn't that young, but I was too young to be a part of
that.
Wayne Morris:
Do you consider yourself completely free now of the influence from the
Illuminati and your former perpetrators?
Cisco Wheeler:
No I do not consider myself completely free from the cult influence. We are
continually harassed by external threats. We get a lot of phone calls, we get
bullets in our windows, we get run off the road, we get letters, we get people
that walk up to us in the grocery store and they threaten us. They let us know
in their little way that they know where I am, what I am doing, and what I am up
to, and that it's not over until they say it's over. They are calling the shots.
Wayne Morris:
Have they been able to access parts of you that you have not dealt with in terms
of healing?
Cisco Wheeler:
In the past they have; at the present time, no. I am very careful on where I am
and what I am doing. I am not careless with my time or my energy, and I don't
set myself up so that they can access me. I have other people answer my phone. I
have other people read my letters. I have other people that walk before to make
sure everything is okay before I walk into anything that I can't handle.
Wayne Morris:
What effects has the trauma conditioning that you have undergone throughout your
life do you have to deal with currently?
Cisco Wheeler:
I continue to suffer with the trauma based mind control in every aspect of my
life. I have to deal with the fact that my father had a beautiful little girl
and he didn't want her love as that beautiful little girl that was born to him.
I have to deal with the fact that he wanted a little girl but he wanted her to
be shattered into a million pieces so he could structure every aspect of my
life. And then I have to ask myself what did it take to splinter this 18 month
old child into a million pieces? And you deal with questions like that. It is
hard for the mind to comprehend what has been done to you because the mind
always wants to protect itself to some degree so you take little 'bites' of it.
But the mind is always processing material. Then I have to deal with the fact
that they planned this - that's what structured is. Structured MPD/DID was
planned from the time of my conception and I am afraid that kind of hurts my
feelings when I think about it.
Wayne Morris:
They had a definite structure in terms of knowing what they were doing when they
were traumatizing you, and what the effects that would bring about ...
Cisco Wheeler:
Exactly. They knew from A to Z what they wanted to do with my life and how they
wanted to structure, what they wanted me to be, and what they wanted me to
become. That is slavery. I had to deal with the body, soul and spirit because
all parts of myself have been raped. I continually have to deal with memories;
with spirit issues; issues within me - in my programming; how they dehumanized
me; how they shamed me; how they traumatized me to the point that I didn't even
know who I was, what I was, where I was going. I didn't even know I was a little
girl at some points in my traumatization. They made sure they dehumanized me to
such a point I became a kitten within myself. To be a little girl was to be
tortured, to be punished, unacceptable. I have to deal with the spiritual issues
because I was told God didn't love me, he raped me, I could no longer have my
name in the Lamb's Book of Life, my name was taken out of the Book of Life, and
then they continued to program me with hypnotically taking my heart from my
body, using drugs, so I didn't even know I had a heart. They dehumanized me to
the point where there was no place to go except the family. No place to go.
Wayne Morris:
Were there other perpetrators involved in your family, other than your father?
Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. I am trying to think of where I want to start. My primary
programmer was Dr. Green, who was Dr. Josef Mengele. My other primary programmer
was Dr. Black, who was my father.
Wayne Morris:
When did you realize that Dr. Green was in fact Josef Mengele?
Cisco Wheeler:
I always knew from my internal parts. My deeper parts were programmers and my
father was trained by Mengele, he was his #2 man. We followed in my father's
footsteps. We were also trained to be a programmer. That was our specialized
field.
Wayne Morris:
Did he say or use his name at some points?
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, he did. As well he went by Dr. Fairchild, Dr. Green.
Wayne Morris:
What's your understanding of Mengele's involvement in mind control across the
continent?
Cisco Wheeler:
I am sure that he infiltrated every state, and I know he has worked up in
Canada.
Wayne Morris:
What state were you located when he was performing mind control on you?
Cisco Wheeler:
Most of my programming occurred in California and Oregon. In California at China
Lake Naval Base; the Presidio north San Francisco; and the Letterman Hospital
next to the Presidio military base. In Alcatraz there was programming that went
on in the prisons there. And Scotty's Castle in Death Valley in California. Also
in Torrence, California. And at the State Mental Hospital in Salem, Oregon and
in the big Masonic hospital called Dorenbecker here in Portland.
Wayne Morris:
What time frame would that have been in?
Cisco Wheeler:
1948-9 clear up to the middle 60's.
Wayne Morris:
How did you begin the process of healing yourself into disabling as much as
possible the programming that was done to you?
Cisco Wheeler:
By stabilizing myself. By making sure I was in a safe place where I could do my
work without being infiltrated. By sincerely making that effort to go towards
health above all else. To work diligently on my memories and my programming, and
to be a truth-seeker. To find out, no matter what had been done to me, I wanted
to know what had been done. If you don't know where you have been, you don't
know where you are going. It was very important for me to go towards health,
because once I realized what they had done to me and the depths of the
programming, I was going to stand by and not say anything, be silent, let it not
be spoken ... I was going to beat the programming which has been hear no evil,
see no evil, do no evil. I was going to beat that. I was going to tell. That was
my determination that helped me fight the trauma of knowing what I had to learn
about myself.
Wayne Morris:
The work that you had to go through to accomplish that level of healing - what
does that involve in terms of dealing with your memories?
Cisco Wheeler:
I had to face the pain, the torture, face my own fears of the unknown, face the
fact that my father didn't love me, face the fact that trauma bonding is not
love and no matter what they say as far as in the name of love, there is no love
involved in this. I had to look deep inside myself and find that spark of life
that was left because they so dehumanize you as they are programming you to be
their slave, that for some the light goes out and there is no hope, but for
myself I was fortunate. There was some hope and there as a light, and that light
enabled me to have the courage and the strength I needed to go towards health.
Wayne Morris:
How did the people around you help you through this?
Cisco Wheeler:
My support team was very helpful. It consisted of three women plus myself. We
were all programmed around the same time by the same programmers. My father was
a very strong in their lives, because he was their programmer. That tied us
together emotionally. All four of us had made the determination that we were
going to walk out of this and that we were going to go toward health. We became
very bonded, not only from what we knew had ritually happened to us, and through
the shared trauma base. We stepped out of that and started building a new type
of friendship of trust, lifting each other up, building each other up, being
there for each other, having a listening ear, learning how to document our
memories, to be there no matter what time of the day it was for the first five
years. We all needed each other at any given point. Two of the three ladies have
medical degrees, the other is a teacher -- all four of us are free today because
we stood together.
In our healing process the first thing we had to acknowledge within ourselves,
and we each had to do this separately, is to acknowledge that we are MPD, that
we are DID, and that we were generational families of satanism. Yes, we did
practice satanism, and yes we were of the Illuminati bloodline, and yes, there
is a lot of dirt in our lives, and yes, we don't want to look at it. It was too
painful to look at. But there came a time when we wanted to step out of our
denial and I think that's the most important thing in the healing process when I
look back - we had the courage to look at our life and the reality in which it
stood. We were programmed to be a programmer, and that gave us the ability to
understand others as well as ourselves, and we could work together within a
group, and we did gain a lot of strength from one another. But we also had to
call a spade a spade. We couldn't run away from what had happened to us. That
was our strength. It gave us the courage we needed to keep fighting.
Once we realized that yes, we were under mind control, and yes, we were slaves
for the Illuminati - we didn't like the slavery in which we had been born into.
We also didn't like the idea that we never were given a choice as to what
happened to us. We wanted to be free agents. We just didn't know how to become a
free agent. We had to fight for it. It didn't come easy. The nights were filled
with trauma. The days were filled with trauma and pain. The body, soul and
spirit is continually in a warfare as it goes towards health. It does not like
to release the hidden knowledge of what was done to us, everything was done to
us in secret. Because of the programs it didn't want to unravel itself and to do
so was very very painful.
Wayne Morris:
Was the ability for you and the other survivors to be able to find a safe place,
to be able to undergo this work with others - was this a significant factor in
being able to break that control?
Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. Even to the point where we would go to see our therapist, our
handlers would be on the stairs of the building which we would enter to see our
therapist - to let us know that if we said anything that would bring down the
family or to expose the family, that we would pay for it later. They would be
waiting for us. In other words, have a good time, enjoy your therapist, but we
will be here waiting when you get out. The torture that came - you had to face
them every single time you went to see your therapist, you had to face knowing
they could be around a corner, or even run you off the road on the way to the
therapist. They may burn your house down, or they may put a bullet through one
of your children's heads, or through your bedroom window, or they are going to
get to you one way or the other. You have to work with threats, the lies. That
was at the beginning of our therapy work. Just to get through the trauma of the
threat would keep most people at home. But what it did for us and the other
survivors is that we became so angry that we decided we were going to fight
them, even until death, because it's not over until God says it's over. When He
says it's over, that's fine, we are ready to go home. We are going to fight
this. We are going to win.
Before when we were under mind control and the memories were taken from us, we
didn't have a choice. We didn't have a say in what they did to us. But this time
it is different. We have a say. We could walk into the therapist's office or we
could choose not to. But to have the ability to say 'even until death I am going
to go to therapy, I am going to continue this journey' there was a lot of
strength that came with that, because every time we took a step in the right
direction, it gave us the power that we needed.
Wayne Morris:
So you found a lot of strength in the anger.
Cisco Wheeler:
Even when they got a hold of us in the first five years of our therapy, and they
did get a hold of us, and they did torture us, and they did apply electrical
shock, they did drug us, and they did rape us, over and over, they continued
these things the first five years. Even after the trauma, it was still worth it.
Because it was the first time we knew we were human. We had been so dehumanized
from the trauma of the mind control, that just to have a spark of humanism, to
really have the reality, "I am not a kitten." "I am a child, I am a woman, I was
once a little girl." "It was all lies." You are willing to die for the truth ...
Wayne Morris:
You mentioned about trauma bonding ... can you explain to our listeners what
that is and what it meant for you in your case?
Cisco Wheeler:
For instance, Dr. Green. He used to put us in the hot cages in the desert there,
they were sweat tanks. He would come out there, after we had no water and no
food for a number of hours (it seemed like days to us). We were told it was
days, but common sense tells us that it was hours. These cages were set up so we
could see outside the cages (like animal cages). In my memory, off to the left
me were other cages ... with small children 2, 3, 4 years old. Green would come
out there and he would have a daisy in his hand and he would walk through this
area where we were being held in these holding tanks, and he would walk up to me
and he would say, "I love you, I love you not, I love you ..." If he said "I
love you not" I knew I was in big trouble because he had already set a prior
example to me by walking in front of the cage to my left, and he told the little
girl that he loved her not when he reached the last petal of his daisy. At that
point, she was taken out, and she was eliminated in front of me. In other words,
her life was taken from her at that point, to show his power and his control,
and what would happen if Dr. Green ceased to love you.
What I failed to understand as a child, with a child's mind, is that it was set
up. The murder did take place but the thing is, these were what they called
"expendable" children. As for me, I was Illuminati, so they weren't going to
eliminate me because they had a reason for me, they had my life planned for me.
Part of the grooming is to set the stage. The script was played out when Dr.
Green eliminated the child in the cage. I was to see all this, because it was a
power play. If that's love trauma bonding, "I love you Dr. Green, I love you
very very much because you could have said you didn't love me and I would be
dead". He did "love me" because he "spared my life" - but it also showed me the
power that this man had. Try to translate that into a child's mind when they are
only four or five years old.
Wayne Morris:
Do you feel that the unpredictability of the trauma was a factor in the trauma
bonding?
Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. You never knew when you were going to be loved and when you weren't
going to be loved - at any point there could be a change of direction. When my
father was kind as my programmer, he was very kind but when he was ruthless, he
was ruthless to the core. There was no humanism. He became less than a wild
animal himself, there was nothing he would not do to get his point across. We
have parts of ourselves that love him dearly to this day, who will always love
him, they look up to him.
Wayne Morris:
How many other children were involved in this, that you were aware of, at the
time?
Cisco Wheeler:
I knew in 1968 that there were over 2 million MKULTRA's. Since then I don't have
the awareness or the knowledge because I am not seeing the paperwork or the
records to tell me how many. If I was making a guess, I would say 10 million.
Wayne Morris:
How did you know 2 million were involved?
Cisco Wheeler:
Because I was a programmer and I saw the documented records on this.
Wayne Morris:
So they have been able to program victims to program other victims ... how did
they go about doing that?
Cisco Wheeler:
They train you on the job. You have to realize within the Illuminati structure
there are many levels to the system. My mothers were trained in programming.
That's at the Illuminati level.
Wayne Morris:
They trained you in programming techniques?
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes.
Wayne Morris:
What kind of people did they make you perform this kind of programming on? Were
they other Illuminati family members?
Cisco Wheeler:
They were all Illuminati children. We did not work outside of the Illuminati
structure.
Wayne Morris:
As an Illuminati family member, what did they have in mind for you, why did they
want to program you?
Cisco Wheeler:
The sole purpose - at the deepest layer of the system - lies mothers. They are
the foundation. You have three mothers who are on a pedestal - their sole
purpose is to rule and reign with the antichrist as his queen when he takes his
throne. As god has a bride, so lucifer has a bride, and that bride is the
mothers of darkness. That is the bottom line.
Wayne Morris:
Who would be this antichrist figure? I have heard of the name, "Lord Maitreya."
Is this one candidate?
Cisco Wheeler:
He is one of the forerunners, a disciple. You have to understand the luciferian
belief system and the way that the structure within the Illuminati is laid out.
It is laid out according to god's word - so that it can stand, or it can be
blasphemous of who god is. But when god sent his son to the earth, christ had
twelve disciples that followed him. The antichrist is going to be like three in
one, and he will also have twelve forerunners. This is where Maitreya comes in.
He is a forerunner. John the Baptist was a forerunner for christ.
Wayne Morris:
Do you have any information on how they are going to accomplish this?
Cisco Wheeler:
They have already accomplished it ... by taking our constitutional rights away
from us ... by having a government within a government, like a box within a box.
By creating famines, by having wars and rumours of wars, by the American people
and the Canadian people no longer having the freedoms that once were theirs.
Wayne Morris:
In a global sense, how is this related to what is known as New World Order?
Cisco Wheeler:
The New World Order is a body of people within the Illuminati, thirteen major
bloodlines that rule the world and they set the stage, they play out the script,
and there will be a complete fulfillment of what they have staged for the
American people, Canadians, and the world. There is no doubt about it.
Wayne Morris:
What kind of things do you expect will occur in the future that relate to this?
Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that the people in the world are going to wake up some day very soon
and realize that the stock market has crashed, that financially the world has
been crushed. They are going to realize that their food and grain has been
contaminated, that their medical field has been dominated by the Illuminati
medical force because the Illuminati has infiltrated every aspect of our lives.
They are going to realize that we don't have the freedom to even speak for our
children, that the government has more to say in regards to our children than we
do, they can take them and control them at any given point. We are going to
realize that the churches are not what they seem to have been - that the
churches have been infiltrated. There is nothing left. There is nothing that has
not been touched by the Illuminati and its family.
Wayne Morris:
Is there a time when this is going to be implemented in terms of a one world,
military government?
Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. I expect 1998 to be a year of turmoil as far as people coming to
terms with the knowledge that the government is not what they thought it was,
the church is not what they thought it was, people they have looked up to are
not who they thought they were.
Wayne Morris:
What kinds of things do you believe these power groups who belong to the
Illuminati will try and implement in terms of controlling people's anger and
responses to what they've got planned? What is their retaliation?
Cisco Wheeler:
To eliminate the people as a whole - anyone who doesn't come under submission of
the New World Order will be eliminated.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think they will use the mind controlled victims to implement that?
Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely.
Wayne Morris:
How do you think that is going to come about?
Cisco Wheeler:
They can use any slave that has been under mind control to accomplish any goal
they have set forth with an access code, they can blow up a bridge, they can
assassinate any leader - a governor, mayor, pastor - anyone that gets in the
Illuminati's path, who will not bend or bow to the Illuminati structure - they
have slaves in force who will just go and eliminate them. Whatever is needed, it
is there. I guarantee you it is there.
Wayne Morris:
There have been quite a number of survivors of mind control talking about
end-times programming where they know they are going to be triggered to do
something. Is this related to that?
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes it is. Most definitely is. There is a clock ticking and it is going to
strike midnight soon, and when it does, all hell is going to break loose within
the world.
Wayne Morris:
Do you have an idea of a date?
Cisco Wheeler:
I do not give dates. I am not God and things can always change. The timetables
can change because of circumstances surrounding what they are trying to
accomplish. It can either rapidly speed up or time can stand still because
everything has to work like a ticking clock - everything has to be in its place
in order for the New World Order to come about. Everything has to be in its
place.
Wayne Morris:
What do you think people can do out there to try to stop this or to prepare
themselves for this?
Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that people need to understand there is a time to weep, and there is a
time for war, every man and every woman should have the insight or the
foreknowledge within themselves the answer to themselves. When they look around,
if they are honest with themselves, they can see that the world is falling apart
at its seams, something big is coming down, they need to look at themselves.
Listen to themselves. Look and see and hear what is happening around them, and
they need to start preparing themselves for the worst because the worst is
coming. They need to be in a place, and in a state of mind that when the
military soldiers are knocking at their doors and come after their children to
take them down, that they say "not me, not me, not me and my house." We are in a
fight. There is a time to fight.
Wayne Morris:
Part of your strength, as you said, has been from your anger in terms of trying
to expose what they have been doing. What have you been doing since breaking
free to a certain degree in terms of exposing what they have been doing? How
have you been getting the word out to the public?
Cisco Wheeler:
I have co-authored three books with Fritz Springmeier, and in co-authoring these
books we have taken our internal information and our knowledge that we have had
because of our own experiences in the Illuminati and we have put it to the page.
In other words, we have written it. Because we are a programmer, we understand
the inside and the heartbeat of lucifer himself, because mind control and the
Illuminati are nothing more than the heartbeat of satan himself, to bring down
God's people, the world as a whole.
Wayne Morris:
What more do you think needs to happen in terms of exposing this to the general
public?
Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that to understand what is going on within the heartbeat of the
Illuminati, that you need to understand what the Illuminati are -- who they are,
what they are, and what they have done. To understand something you need to have
foresight -- without foresight you are walking in the dark and you are going to
think you know but you really do not know until you come in contact with it --
even if it is through the pages of the written word. It's out there -- it's
written. Whether it's me or Fritz or someone else, there is written material on
mind control and people need to know what's been done. If they don't know what's
been done to them, they are never going to know what can be done again to their
families and their families, and their children.
Wayne Morris:
So what elements in terms of the Illuminati's belief systems and what they have
been doing -- what elements are essential for people to understand?
Cisco Wheeler:
They need to understand that the Illuminati are satanists and that there isn't
anything they will not do. They are gods unto themselves. They think they are
gods and they are only serving lucifer. They have taken oaths to lucifer to
serve him as their prince, as the father of light. They have taken blood oaths
in order to see this, to see it done, to see the fulfillment of the end-time, to
see the antichrist take his throne. They have done this for centuries.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think it is important that the general public understands the mind
control aspects of this and how they have accomplished mind control?
Cisco Wheeler:
Most definitely. If they don't understand mind control, they are not going to
understand what's happening in their backyard or in their schools or in their
churches or in politics. They need to understand how they have been totally
controlled from the cradle themselves -- that most everything they have been
told is a lie.
Wayne Morris:
How important in terms of the Illuminati's bloodline is mind control on their
own family members? What part does that play in promoting their goals?
Cisco Wheeler:
The Illuminati are very loyal unto themselves. They are gods. They see
themselves as gods, and they stay within the Illuminati structure, within the
royal bloodlines, within the thirteen ruling families. If you are not
generational, you are not going to get into the Illuminati because this is
passed from generation to generation from son to daughter to daughter to son, to
father ... it touches everyone within the family for generations. This isn't
something that just happened.
Wayne Morris:
It seems to be something more than just normal family allegiances at work here
in that they have traumatized and mind controlled their own family members. I
sense that has been an important part of perpetuating their end goals?
Cisco Wheeler:
That's true, because their allegiance is unto lucifer who I now will call him
satan, that's who he is. They believe in the doctrinism of satanism that if they
rule as gods and they are obedient to the call which is lucifer's call upon
their life because they made blood oaths with him, then they will rule and reign
with him in hell. They don't fear hell. They have no fear of hell. They only
believe if they do what satan asks them to do, which he does tell them what to
do, that they will stand as gods with him in hell and they will rule the people
in hell. They will become gods with him. That is the big lie. They believe this.
What can I say? That is the bottom line of the doctrine. They believe they will
be gods in hell. And they all want to be gods because they see themselves as
gods. As a god, they come under no authority except lucifer's authority. Lucifer
does their bidding for them. He tells them exactly what to do, what he wants,
and they will do it.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think this is driven by just the drive for power and the seduction of
power? Is this what is underlying their motivation?
Cisco Wheeler:
It has to do with money, honour, power and glory -- it has to do with demonic
entities -- with generational spirits.
Wayne Morris:
So they have aligned themselves with ...
Cisco Wheeler:
With lucifer and his demonic entities, yes, they are very demon possessed.
Wayne Morris:
Both you and Fritz have been helping other victims of this trauma-based mind
control. How has the understanding of the programming techniques helped you help
others?
Cisco Wheeler:
I have been able to help other victims of trauma-based mind control as I have
made myself available to counsel without any charge. Also I have had -- because
I have co-authored books with Fritz -- I have the information out there and they
are wanting to talk to me about some of the material that has been written in
the books because many of them have been facing the same issues and the same
problems. Sometimes they just need a listening ear. Also in working with victims
of mind control I can understand them in the complexity of who they are and for
what has been done to them, without being judgmental. When they tell me they are
MKULTRA and Dr. Green or Dr. Black or Dr. Blue or Dr. Star has programmed them
and they have memories of this, immediately my heart becomes one with them
because I have been there. I have walked in their shoes, and I know what they
are going through. I want to hear what they have to say, and I care what has
happened to them. I care. I see their journey -- not that I take on their
journey -- but I see their journey and whatever I might say may give them the
strength they need to continue to go towards health, and that's very important
to me.
Wayne Morris:
I am wondering when you are working with other victims, has the act of
remembering the trauma of their conditioning, does that help to disable the
programming or conditioning?
Cisco Wheeler:
When someone else can walk where you have walked, or say yes, I do acknowledge
that -- it's confirmation. We need confirmation. Because the atrocities that
have been done to us in order to enslave us to the degree in which we were
enslaved under total mind control that we didn't even know we were alive and
well on planet earth without permission - you know what I'm saying?
When someone calls me and says "I remember such and such" and I'll say, "you're
right on track -- your mind never lied to you -- I can confirm what you are
saying -- these things did happen and yes, I am very familiar with this
program." I will not tell them about the program because that's very dangerous
to do so, but I will let them tell me what they know. Then I will give them the
confirmation as to where they are.
Wayne Morris:
What other kinds of things can be done for victims in terms of their own healing
and memory work? What else do you recommend for them?
Cisco Wheeler:
I think one of the most important things to remember is that we were all slaves.
We were ruled and controlled by the harshest hand of mastery. We were controlled
by very sadistic individuals and we were terribly, terribly treated. You
wouldn't treat an animal the way we were treated. You wouldn't -- it's important
to be sensitive to that because it's very painful. The body has felt raped, the
mind has felt raped, the spirit has felt raped. And we need someone to say this
really hurts and we need to have someone to say "you know I didn't walk where
you have walked and so I can't totally comprehend what you are saying to me, but
I am listening, and I truly believe what happened to you did happen to you."
Because we have been so programmed to believe that if we tell the world that the
world will call us a liar and they will stand us up and either shoot us or put
us in prison for the crimes that have been done or that no one is going to
believe the atrocities anyway. Did anyone believe about the Holocaust? The world
didn't want to hear about the Holocaust. They didn't believe it. It's been how
many years -- and people still don't want to believe that the Holocaust really
did happen. And what happened to us is no less than what happened in the
concentration camps.
Wayne Morris:
Do you feel that they have done particular types of trauma and conditioning that
would set you up to be disbelieved by the public?
Cisco Wheeler:
Oh definitely. When someone like myself or Mr. Springmeier start telling you
things about ritual abuse and satanic holidays and yes, they do this, and they
do a,b,c and d, the mind goes "Uh, uh. I am going to shut down, you just hit a
block here, I don't want to hear it." To hear it means that everything you have
been told in your life all of a sudden is a lie. These things do happen. We are
programmed within the story lines of fairy tales, etc. and that helps us.
Wayne Morris:
I talked about this with Fritz about how certain cultural - stories, movies,
books are used ... Wizard of Oz ...
Cisco Wheeler:
Alice in Wonderland, make believe ...
Wayne Morris:
So this is done for a couple of purposes, both because of the prevalence of this
type of material out in our 'cultural' world -- this reinforces the programming.
Cisco Wheeler:
And even if you haven't had the trauma-based mind control, you are still in a
world of make believe because you are conditioned to a world of make believe
through the fairy tales. There isn't any reality here, but the mind always wants
to go back where it is safe.
Wayne Morris:
It seems like some of these programmers also have done things deliberately to
discredit any accounts coming -- afterwards -- in terms of the victims, like
them dressing up like Santa Claus -- just being ridiculous ...
Cisco Wheeler:
They do that so it invalidates you -- there are certain programs that if you
remember this or that -- and I don't want to say it over the phone because I
certainly don't want to be responsible for triggering someone out there -- but
if you remember certain informatiion you immediately go into an insanity mode.
These insanity modes are put in at a very deep level with hypnosis and drugs,
and when you hit one, if you don't have a support team that you need, you will
go insane. And you will end up in a mental institution. Who wants to believe
someone that spent the last six months in a mental institution?
Wayne Morris:
In a general sense, I wonder if you can give some information to our listeners
to sensitize them as to what kinds of things were done, what kind of techniques
were used for the purposes of mind control? You mentioned hypnosis and drugs,
trauma ..
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, and electrical shock. I always speak for myself, and I go back to eighteen
months when they wanted to make sure they splintered my mind. My father was my
primary programmer, but he was also my father and when I was born I was isolated
with my father in a small room within the environment of our own home, where my
father became my primary care provider. I looked up to my father. By the time I
was 18 months, because my father was a programmer, he could control my liver, my
kidneys, my heart rate, my pulse, my respiration.
Wayne Morris:
How did he accomplish that?
Cisco Wheeler:
Through hypnosis -- I was so trauma-bonded to him. My survival depended totally
on him. I was not exposed to the outside world. He was my handler, in every
sense of the word. He fed me, he bathed me. I also was a premature birth which
was very important because I was a very weak child when I was born. I weighed 2
lb. 1 oz. and he conditioned me through his voice - he always told me he could
control me. He loved me to the point that, even in my infancy, as a newborn
child, I was totally dependent on him for my life.
When I was 18 months old I was taken from him which was a shock for me because I
had never been separated from him, and my first trauma came when I was raped by
him. When he finished raping me I had to have reconstructive surgery done to
repair the damage. That was the trauma that splintered my mind into a million
pieces. I shouldn't say "million", it feels like a million to me -- rather
thousands of pieces.
Wayne Morris:
What kind of things were you conditioned to do -- you mentioned sexual slavery
-- what other jobs or operations were you programmed to do?
Cisco Wheeler:
I have Beta and Delta alters which are espionage alters -- they specialized in
martial arts. They were alters that were used for blackmail of politicians,
ministers, anyone that needed to be blackmailed in order to bring them under the
subission of the Illuminati.
Wayne Morris:
How would this blackmail occur?
Cisco Wheeler:
Usually through a sexual act. Usually there would be a stage where they would
have sex with a certain person and that person, during the sex act, would be
traumatized to such a point that the person died and they would be blackmailed
that they committed murder, when in fact they didn't. There are many different
ways to set up blackmail. It would be recorded and that would be the sex slave's
responsibility to do that, and to set that individual up.
Wayne Morris:
Who would be the people behind the blackmail?
Cisco Wheeler:
The Illuminati, the family, who wanted that person under their submission, under
their rule, from that day forward. Deltas were assassination alters for anyone
who doesn't want to follow the orders of the Illuminati -- anyone who wants to
feel like they are bigger or better or stronger or more powerful, and can step
outside the authority of the Illuminati and live -- will be eliminated. We also
laundered drug money. But you need to understand that these particular alters
don't live in the outside world, they live within the mind, within the construct
of the mind. When they are needed, they are accessed through a specific code,
they are brought up to awareness, to the front of the mind. They are then given
the program as to where they are to be, what they are supposed to do, and then
after they have done the job they are immediately traumatized again through
electrical shock. That memory is shattered again in the mind and then they are
put to sleep until the next time. They have no awareness of what's going on in
the outside world, or that there is even another world except for the world they
are programmed to function in.
Wayne Morris:
The electroshock served to wipe out the memory of the operation?
Cisco Wheeler:
As long as you do it within 48 hours.
Wayne Morris:
You and Fritz have been going public with this information. I understand you
have been doing a number of radio shows, you have written books and people have
contacted you about that. What kind of response have you gotten from the public
with the information you are presenting?
Cisco Wheeler:
We have had very positive response from a lot of therapists, psychologists,
psychiatrists, ministers, people within our own government. We were just told
several weeks ago that there are two congressmen who are reading the books and
they are pleased with what has been written, because they know what we have
written is factual and they are glad that it is getting out to the public. We
have had people say that next to God's word, this book should be in every home,
on every shelf, in every library ... Of course it has shattered a lot of their
dreams and foundational structuring they have had within their own environment
whether that is home or school or church, because things aren't as they seem.
People who are truth-seekers are willing to pay that price because that may be
the only way they can save themselves and their children.
Wayne Morris:
So some of the professionals who have come across your information have dealt
with these issues in their own work ...
Cisco Wheeler:
Oh most definitely. My work has been confirmed by a number of professionals, and
they say it's right on. Some of them have worked with multiples for twenty or
twenty-five years, and they have confirmed my work.
Wayne Morris:
And what generally is the response from people who have not been exposed to
this, just the general public?
Cisco Wheeler:
It's like a culture shock. If you can imagine going into Japan and not being
able to speak Japanese - you wouldn't even know how to get a cup of coffee if
you wanted one.
Wayne Morris:
And it must be even more of a shock because it's own culture they are
confronting.
Cisco Wheeler:
It severs the traditional lies because if you are going to work in truth and you
are going to have integrity then you have to see what is in front of you. Our
book certainly puts on a light on the darkness so you can see what has happened
to you. It's not only multiples who are programmed - the world is programmed. We
are programmed to believe our presidents are men of honour, men of great
integrity. Our presidents are rotten bastards - they are pedophiles, they are
drug addicts, they practise high magic, they practise ritual. They think nothing
of live sacrifice of small children. They think nothing of having their own
slaves available to them. That's the way it is, that's the truth.
Wayne Morris:
In terms of the books you've written - how much have they gotten out to the
public - is it yourselves who are distributing them or do you have distributors?
Cisco Wheeler:
We are self published. If we had a publishing company distributing them, the
Illuminati would buy them all up and have the right to them, and we would lose
our books.
Wayne Morris:
They would just disappear ...
Cisco Wheeler:
They would just disappear. We can't risk that.
Wayne Morris:
I also wanted to ask you - are you aware of your father's connection to any of
the people involved in the CIA MKULTRA projects?
Cisco Wheeler:
Definitely. He was Dr. Green's left hand man. Dr. Green trained him. Also, Dr.
Star, Dr. Blue, Dr. White ... these are alibi names. I know their real names but
for the sake of survivors who might be listening, I prefer not to trigger them.
That would be a very dangerous thing for me to do.
Wayne Morris:
What more do you think the public can do to help victims of mind control? What
can the average person do to help?
Cisco Wheeler:
The average person can be a support person, they can contact ministers who are
working with MKULTRA mind control survivors, they can contact therapists and say
'I've learned about MKULTRA, about mind control - I'm just beginning to have a
picture of what has happened to these individuals who have been traumatized from
their birth'. Ask 'how can I help you?' Can I work with you as a therapist, as a
minister, as a layman - can I work with you to understand what mind control is?
And as I grow and as I understand this subject at a deeper level, then can I
reach out and be that hand extended to a survivor out there? Can I be there when
they have ritual holidays that are approaching, when their mind wants to have
flashbacks as to what happened to them during those ritual holidays? Can I be
there to help that individual who can't get out of their house because they are
so trauma-bound at this time because they are working on programs or they are
fearful for their life and they won't even go to the grocery store because they
are terrified? Can I be there to wash that dish because that survivor may not
have the strength because she or he is working on their issues, and they are too
weak to even do dishes. Can I be there to sit in the middle of the night
listening to you because you are in so much pain from what you remembered? Can I
be there at night to hold your hand? Can I be there to support you? Those are
the little things that give stability to continue because you have to
understand, as a survivor, in order to go towards health, everything that was
done to us, in order to come out of this healthy, we have to re-live every
trauma that was ever done to us. We have to know it with the full impact of our
emotions, every sense of ourselves with these five senses that God gave us. We
have to see it, smell it, touch it, hear it, feel it.
Wayne Morris:
It's just so difficult for people to understand what you have to go through.
Cisco Wheeler:
I can speak for myself and only for myself because I have experienced it - some
of the memories I have had to go through in order to go towards health - as I
was going through the memory I would lose control of the process which I needed
to work. There's a certain process in retrieving memories that you need to focus
on that - there are certain things that you need to do to keep the memory
intact, so that the mind doesn't re-splinter itself. If the memory of what was
done to you is so powerful that it splintered your mind when you were
traumatized. Every memory we have re-traumatizes us. It's a process - it's
something you have to learn, over and over again - because every memory has a
different feeling. Every memory has a different purpose behind it.
So those who want to be there to help need to learn about mind control. There
are many people out there who are working with survivors and they need a break
too. They need to have a few days off once in a while, and they need to be able
to have a good night's sleep. They need to know that if they want to go and do
something special for themselves, that the survivor they are leaving is not
going to be harassed all night or is not going to be contacted or is not going
to walk out of that house and walk into a trap where they will be re-programmed
or tortured. Because the Illuminati is just waiting for a slave to make a
mistake and walk out of her house and meet their handlers. All programmed slaves
have handlers, and they are just waiting for us. They answer to the Illuminati
and their job is to make sure they punish us for what we have done, and that is
that we have spoken against the family, we have seen what has been done to us,
and we have not held our tongues, we have told, we have talked. And there is a
great punishment that comes with that.
Wayne Morris:
For people listening who feel they may have been influenced by this kind of
stuff, or know of people, what is your advice for them?
Cisco Wheeler:
I would advise them to seek out a therapist who has had training, at least five
years of training, with MPD or DID victims. Who truly understand and believe
that ritual abuse does exist on the planet earth. If you are trying to work with
someone who doesn't even believe that satanic ritual abuse exists, you are
wasting your time. If you are trying to work with someone who doesn't understand
DID or MPD, you are also wasting your time because we have no time to play, our
minds won't allow us to, there is no playfield here. This is a life and death
issue. If you are not in the right setting and working with the right person,
they could cost you your life. There is a very high percentage of suicides in
recovery for victims of ritual abuse.
Wayne Morris:
In your experience Cisco - how important was it having a strong support system
to be able to heal?
Cisco Wheeler:
On a one to ten scale - it's the top ten. Without a support system, you might as
well forget it in my opinion. I was one of the more fortunate ones in my healing
process - I had Fritz Springmeier who was my support team for many, many months
and even into years he was there for me, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a
week, 365 days a year, day in and day out.
Therapists have this idea that - and I have heard top therapists say that it's
all right to work with a survivor - I prefer to use the word "victim" because we
are continually victimized, internally and externally. They say, "well we can
spend the one or two hours a week with them and if they get picked up by their
handler, that's okay, because we have still made progress." I just about died
when I heard this the first time. I thought, man, if you were the one who was
picked up by one of your handlers and you were raped, or you were gun-raped, or
you were bruised as bad as what I have been bruised, internally and externally,
you wouldn't be saying this. When they victimize you and they traumatize you and
they de-program you, only the front part of the system is told to tell their
therapist they are doing very well. The programs are so intact, and we are so
fine-tuned that parts of yourself can be dying internally but part of the system
will go to work every day never knowing anything ever happened. It's pathetic.
What people do not understand is how severe the trauma is when your handlers get
a hold of you and what you could even do to yourself if you don't have someone
there. When those programs go off they are hot - they are hot as they were the
day they were put in - whether that was twenty years or thirty years ago, it
doesn't make any difference - they are red-hot - and when I wanted to cut I
wanted to cut myself - when I wanted to burn - I would burn myself. There were
times when I had to literally be held down because I couldn't help myself
because the programs were so powerful. Therapists don't understand, neither do
people understand the depth of the programming - to what extreme they went to
ensure everything they did to us would stay intact to be obedient to the laws
that govern the Illuminati.
Wayne Morris:
So part of the role of your support team is in helping limit being re-accessed
by your programmers?
Cisco Wheeler:
Oh yeah. And it takes a special individual like Fritz - I can only speak for
myself because I don't know anyone else who has been as fortunate as I was to
have a support person who stayed with me during those hard times. He stayed with
me when it wasn't so hard, because there are lot of days that are good, days
that are bad. Where we got into trouble - our front system is extremely powerful
- very high functioning. They swore up and down that they weren't being
contacted, threatened, no harm had come to them in twenty years as far as they
knew. That was their information. It doesn't work that way because you have
amnesia walls, you are not supposed to know. They go deep, deep into the system.
I know the front part of myself - the alters within the front part of my own
mind - they made contracts with their therapist, with Fritz, with God - there
were certain things they wouldn't do. There were boundaries they wouldn't cross
- no, they wouldn't leave the house at 1 a.m. Well, you have sleep triggers and
so forth during certain ritual holidays. The minute that front system lays down,
there are deep parts that are ready and willing to go. The alters in the front
of the mind go to sleep, the other alters slip out. The front alters think they
slept all night. Well, we have been playing all night. You know what I am
saying?
Wayne Morris:
It must be devastating to realize they have affected you at such a deep level.
Cisco Wheeler:
You cannot make contracts for the deeper parts of the mind because the mind
doesn't even know what's going on within the front system, nor are they going to
make it a commitment, because they are 100% programmed. They are going to do
what they are told to do because they know nothing else. They only know the
scripts which are running within their own mind.
Wayne Morris:
I think it's a testament to your courage and strength to be able to have broken
the control as much as you have, and to have gone through and dealt with what
you have, and I think that sends out a hopeful message to other mind control
victims out there.
Cisco Wheeler:
There is lots of hope out there for mind control victims if they have a very
strong support system. Like with Fritz - he stayed with me 24 hours a day, and
when it was bad, when I would go into memory and be triggered by something and
programs would kick in - he was there to support me - to help me talk it
through. And he taught me how to run the two tracks. One track I acknowledge as
the program track and the other track is the de-program track so that I could
balance myself out and get back on my feet. You can stay within a program for
days if you don't have someone to teach you how to free yourself up from the old
messages.
Wayne Morris:
Can you explain how that worked? How you thought about the two tracks in terms
of your breaking control?
Cisco Wheeler:
In my mind, I have the first track set up as: I wanted my life to be new - I
made a commitment that I wanted a change of direction - I did not want to be
what I was - I did not want to function in the degree in which I functioned
working within the Illuminati. I wanted nothing to do with it. I wanted to wash
my hands of it and walk away from it. I was very upset at what had been done to
me, that my choices as an individual had been taken away from me from infancy. I
totally had to acknowledge that I was under slavery. I didn't like it, and my
choice was 'I'm out of here - I am going to find a way to get out of here if
it's the last thing I do - I would rather be dead than to serve them." And I
still feel that way and it's been several years. I still feel very strongly that
I would rather be dead than to serve them. I had to come to terms with the fact
that I had to find a new way to function. Okay - I have a new track here and on
that track I am going to go right across it in an unprogrammed state. You have
to see the power, or realize in your mind how good it feels to be able to have a
choice that you can make freely because that's what they have taken away from
you.
If you are a child and you have learned to walk and you go outside and get hit
by a car, and your legs are crushed, and you have to be in a cast for months and
months and you have to re-walk when those casts are taken off -- as a survivor I
have learned to walk. I had to learn to crawl, I had to learn to walk, now I can
run, it's a process.
I also know that I have a second track which is the old messages put in by the
programmers which lead me in a state of total 100% mind control, under the
influence of the old script, the old programs. I know when I am in that state, I
am in a dangerous state. That's when I would cut myself, run away, didn't want
to live, all the negatives in life. When the programs kick in from the
subconscious to conscious awareness, the memories trigger the programs, they
reveal themselves with the full impact of the trauma when they layered it into
our minds so many years ago.
Cisco Wheeler:
In deprogramming we have to unravel the programming script and find the lie.
When you find the lie then you can put the light on it and the lie loses its
power. That's where the miracle is. Your programs are lies. That's all they are.
Was I an ugly little girl? No. I wasn't. Children aren't ugly. Children are
beautiful. I found the lie. They lied to me. Did anybody ever love me? As far as
the cult was concerned no one could ever love me except the family because I was
unlovable. Because of the crimes that were done to me, they put the guilt and
the responsibility on me instead of taking the responsibility for their own acts
as adults. They gave me the responsibility and I wore the coat of many colours.
I had to weave a new coat and that's where the two tracks help.
Wayne Morris:
It seems that they have been able to continue doing these horrific acts against
other people by not taking responsibility or not taking blame for their own
actions and externalizing that.
Cisco Wheeler:
I believe that for every survivor out there - when you were programmed in the
womb and you were 100% under their control - when they tell you to cry, you cry.
When they tell you to scream, you scream. When they tell you to eat, you eat.
Every facet of your life is totally controlled by them. When Fritz found a part
in my system, and he told me I was a little girl, I just looked at him and told
him, "you're crazy, I am not a little girl, I am a kitten." I looked in the
mirror and I had a porcelain face and on that a face is a kitten and that's how
they programmed me. They had so dehumanized me as a sex kitten that I didn't
even know I was a child. When I went through the memories so I could have an
identity for myself, I realized that to be a little girl was the most painful
thing in the whole world, because every time I was human in any sense of the
word, or I thought I had any humanism as far as being a little girl, I was so
severely tortured that I reached a place in my own mind that I never wanted to
be a little girl. It was too painful to be a little girl.
They set up two cages for us - one cage was full of nice, beautiful little
kittens - white, calico, black, persian gray. I was in the cage next to them
with a pan that was hooked to electrical current. Every time I wanted water or
to eat something, and I touched that pan, I was shocked. That's just one little
example. I was shamed, I was spit on, totally humiliated in that cage for being
a little girl. The Illuminati, Dr. Green, my father, made sure that the kittens
were fed whatever they wanted to eat. They were loved, petted, cooed at - just
loved - for a number of days. After all the trauma I had gone through, I guess
my little mind decided not to be the little girl, but to be a kitten. The
kittens get to eat, are not lying in their feces naked, they are not being
shamed, spit on, kicked. When I had memories of this, my body was so bruised
from the kicks I had received from the Illuminati family in the programming that
I had to wear the bruises on my body until I worked through the memory. That
just gives you a little example of how far they go to make sure they get what
they want.
Wayne Morris:
Extremely sadistic.
Cisco Wheeler:
I haven't thought about it in about three years, but these little kittens are
very powerful in my mind today as I am talking on the phone. I see these
kittens, and how well they were treated. My father totally rejected me at that
point. I loved my father very much because I was conditioned to do so. I loved
him in his gentleness, and in his weakness and his strength, and when he was
bad. It didn't matter because the mind was set up to accept whatever he was.
Wayne Morris:
Do you feel your father was also a victim of programming?
Cisco Wheeler:
I have no doubt in my mind that my father was a multiple. My father was a genius
at every level, but he had a gentle side, he was a musician as well as satanist.
Like I said, he worked for the CIA, he was a 33rd degree Mason plus - there are
many levels beyond 33 by the way. He was a Grand Master. He sat on the Grand
Druid Council. He was a very wise man, just not wise in the right things. It's
too bad that his learning hadn't been applied in other directions - he would
have gone far. I can't respect my father for who he is.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think he had a choice in the matter?
Cisco Wheeler:
No. I don't because it was generational. He was trapped as I was trapped. But
the difference between me and my father is that there was a part of my father
that knew, even when the good side of my father that loved his family, worked in
the workplace, was in the military -- there is a real positive part about my
father. He was a people lover, he loved people and people loved him. But I think
there was a time in my father's life when he realized what he was and what he
was doing, I think the barriers within his own mind, within his own
multiplicity, had broken down to the point that he knew, but he also knew he was
in over his head. It would cost him his life to move away or to change
directions. He was too far in.
Wayne Morris:
Then obviously the difference being that you chose, you made the choice to break
away and to fight that.
Cisco Wheeler:
Right. And there is a willful act within the family, the Illuminati family,
there is a willful act there. And I can honestly say the things we did, we did
because we were groomed. We were programmed to do so, but when the light was put
on, and we did the memory work, and we had a free choice to say "do we or don't
we?" our system didn't want to. We wanted to do right, we wanted that hope, that
chance to be what we really wanted to be that was born into us, and that was to
be good. That's the simplest way to say it. I still feel very childish, I feel
like a child that wants to be good. I don't want to be bad. I don't like what
was done to me and I don't like what has been done to others. It's been totally
unfair. It has destroyed many, many lives. The one thing that I wanted to say is
that when I first came out of the system and Fritz was working with me on a
daily basis, I asked him, "these children in the world, do their fathers rape
them?" He said, "no, good fathers do not rape their children." It threw me for a
loop, and I stood there and I looked at him and said, "I really feel sorry for
these children in this world because they are not loved." He said, "oh but they
are loved" and I said, "oh no - if the fathers aren't raping their children,
then they are not loved." I thought rape was love. That's pretty sick.
Wayne Morris:
They just turned those ideas upside down.
Cisco Wheeler:
The first time I had ever had a tear in my eye was when he told me that little
girls and little boys aren't normally raped by their fathers, that is not the
standard of living in which we live. And that upset me to such a point - that
was the first time I ever felt a tear on my face. Because I really felt so bad
that children were not being loved by their fathers. And it took me a long time
to understand the difference, because right is wrong, and wrong is right, that's
how you are programmed. Isn't it something, when you really think about it? I
look back on it now, and I cannot believe the ability they had to do to my mind
and so many other survivors out there. To what degree they would go.
Wayne Morris:
Especially to children.
Cisco Wheeler:
At Inucurran (sp) they had cages on the walls. They put us in the cages and the
monkeys or the apes got to take care of us. We had three of them. One fed us,
one beat us, and one raped us to dehumanize us.
Wayne Morris:
... God ... oh boy ...
Cisco Wheeler:
I still wake up and here I am in my fifties and when I was working on my
memories at Inucurran (sp) in the cages -- well see, whatever they want in the
system -- if they want a particular part in the mind to be a particular
something they had to set the stage for that to come about.
Wayne Morris:
So that they are manipulating a particular context to achieve a certain end ...
Cisco Wheeler:
Yes, a certain image within the mind. A child has creativity but they have to
give us the creativity from which to work from because you have to understand
that the mind is protected by the family in that it is hidden within itself,
like a box within itself -- boxes and boxes, many boxes and each box has a
family within the mind or it's all set up like a grid. A 13x13 grid and 13 deep,
so your hidden parts get no influence from or to the outside world. When I came
out into the world and I met Fritz, I had never known what the world was. I had
the freedom of knowing how to go to the grocery store or where was it or what
was it. I didn't know because I was only programmed to do what they wanted me
to. They would wake me up, give me my programs, put me on the right track as to
where they wanted me to be. I would go do what they wanted me to do, as soon as
I did it, back to sleep I went. I had no influence.
When Fritz told me that I had a family and a mother that was still living I
thought the man was crazy. Here's something else that will just throw you for a
loop -- I have seven grandchildren, that means I have three children of my own
that are grown. When he introduced me to my son when he was thirty (he's a
pilot) out of courtesy I just said, well it's very nice to meet you in my mind.
Afterwards I told Fritz, you are absolutely crazy. You think I'm crazy -- you
guys, you've had it. You're telling me I am programmed as a kitten, a sex
kitten, and when I look in the mirror I see a porcelain face, a kitten's face,
and I am 17 years old and I am not supposed to age. When you look at me and I am
fifty years old, and you look at me and take a picture of me I am 17. I still
look 17, but the point is I was so totally 100% programmed that when Fritz
wanted to give me the truth about what happened to my life, my mind couldn't
even receive it because I had so much programming. It took me two years to
realize I wasn't a kitten before I believed him. Two years of hard work every
single day to break down the lies. That's how strong my defense was. I looked at
all these kids and this is what I said to Fritz: "Fritz you are absolutely
crazy. You expect me to believe that this is my son. You are telling me that my
son is thirty years old. I have no recall. I didn't carry him." I didn't
remember him when he played as a child. I had no identity with this child
whatsoever, that's how dark it was inside my world. I said, "He's thirty years
old, and I am seventeen -- wait a minute here Fritz, something doesn't add up.
You're crazy. You expect me to bite that apple? And I'm going to bite it and I'm
going to believe this, right?" That's the way the mind is. That's just one
example. He introduced me to my mother, to my sisters. I had two sisters that I
didn't know about.
Wayne Morris:
So as you went through your memory work did you regain those parts of your life
in terms of knowing who your children were and ...
Cisco Wheeler:
I have had to build relationships. As I was able to get stronger and work on the
memories -- first I had to acknowledge the lie -- that is, that my father liked
me. That was a very harsh lie for me. I could not believe that my father had
ever lied to me, not my father. I cannot express how hard it was for me to
acknowledge that my father lied to me. Because if I accepted the first lie, then
I had to accept all the other lies. I didn't want to. I did not want my father
defaced. As time went on, months went on, then I had to face what he was and
what he had done to others. If he did this to me and I was his child, oh my God,
what has he done to so many other children being a programmer? And that just
about killed me.
Wayne Morris:
Again, that must have been devastating to you.
I would like to thank you very much Cisco for joining us on this show. I know
it's very difficult to talk about these issues, and I really admire your
enormous courage in exposing this.
Cisco Wheeler:
Thank you very much, thank you for asking.
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Wayne Morris:
We have been listening to an interview with Cisco Wheeler, a survivor of
Illuminati family and U.S. government mind control. Tapes of this radio series
are finally available at the office of CKLN, 380 Victoria in Juergenson Hall on
Ryerson University campus. Tapes are $8.00 each and transcripts are $3.00 each.
Catalogues are available listing all the shows. I would like to spend this next
few minutes just commenting on last weekend's CBC docudrama - The Sleep Room. In
my opinion it was a little too heavy on the drama and too little on the docu
based what we have heard on this radio series about Ewen Cameron and his role in
CIA mind control on children. It was a two part series, and the first part I
found particularly misleading in portraying Cameron as someone with "good but
misguided" intentions -- especially using the reason that he left the Allen
Memorial due to finding out his patients were not being cured ... also for what
it left out about Cameron's role in CIA mind control technology development,
including his involvement with experiments on children ... and other
disinformation. The movie portrayed the CIA's motive as being just to keep up to
the Communists with mind control technology, and the portrayal that the CIA just
started experimenting with mind control when it is a documented fact that the
CIA had been producing mind control programmed agents ten years previous to
that. They also portrayed Cameron as not being concerned with military and
intelligence applications for his work -- I find that a little hard to swallow.
And not being aware of electroshock's effects of wiping out memory -- when he
was an electroshock expert and trained many other psychiatrists how to use
electroshock. Other disinformation was that the experiments didn't "amount to
anything" and were ultimately useless to the CIA when they have taken mind
control technology far beyond what was portrayed and that it was useless is a
lie. If CBC had done its homework, maybe they wouldn't be perpetrating this lie.
I don't know, maybe they would. They made no attempt to link Cameron to the
other well documented doctors involved in MKULTRA or what they were trying to
accomplish, what their end goal was in creating Manchurian Candidate type mind
control operatives.
The second part of the "docudrama" dealt with the survivors' battle for legal
justice. Some good things I thought were the portrayal of the Canadian
government reps covering up for the CIA and the sheer sliminess of the CIA scum
lawyers. However, it may have had the effect on people who were watching it,
especially on people who aren't aware of what is going on in mind control that
justice was eventually served -- even though the amount of money that the
survivors received was really a joke in light of what these people went through.
I felt that CBC considers this movie now closes the book on mind control
atrocities, and that's far from the truth. These atrocities, as we have heard in
this series, are continuing today.
I thought it was unusual that David and Valerie Orlikow were excluded from being
characters in the film when they were the driving force behind the lawsuit and
also particularly because David was a Canadian Member of Parliament and the
weight that would have carried to bring about the suit. I think it may have been
satisfying for survivors of Cameron's atrocious experiments to have seen the
movie and how the survivors were portrayed in their search for justice, but the
reality is that these people were not the only victims of Cameron and all of the
other mind control doctors across Canada and the U.S. I do hope that the movie
is raising public awareness about mind control and what Cameron did, and
hopefully it will encourage public discussion about this, but I think many
people might think that this happened a long time ago, it was settled, end of
story. Well, the story does not end there folks. It's continuing right here on
CKLN, and we are continuing the series next week. Stay tuned, we will have an
interview with Brice Taylor, former mind control slave used by the White House
as a Presidential Model sex slave and by the CIA and other intelligence groups,
and she is also the author of the book "Starshine: One woman's valiant escape
from mind control".
You have been listening to CKLN 88.1 FM.